Stiverne a 9/1 underdog against Joyce is crazy.

[MusoMeanderings]

Would be very surprised if Stiverne fat ass can do anything

Well, he can do being knocked out.

[Ray*]

I dont get that too, i mean Joe is just a robot. Am sure Bermane is beyond shot right now but 9/1 is a great bet.

[sunny31]

They both aren't world beaters. That's the point. Stiverne has fought and beat a higher level of comp though. Joyce has only had 7 fights. I see them as around the same level. The bookies are overrating Joyce and underrating Stiverne because of the Wilder KO. Stiverne looks in much better shape for this fight.

First off it's not near a 50/50 fight...Stiverne has had 3 fights in 4 years, he's 40 years old, his last fight was 15 months ago, Joyce has been active, and decent competition considering 7 fights and even better sparring. He looks terrible but he is a freight train, and if he takes his chin to elite level than he's a problem.

Second, odds are not a consequence of what the bookies think is going to happen (common misconception). It's more complicated than that, it's about the spread...their objective is to make money, no matter what happens

[Madison Boxing]

Joyce is something special. He will knock him out early, possibly in first round

[Shrap]

Joyce is 6'6 270 pounds and can punch. He's done 100's of rounds with Joshua and has brutalized guys in sparring and has a win over Hrgovic who at the time was a national champion .

Joyce only loss is to Usyk in a competitive 5 rounder and that was 6 years ago , I don't know what you guys are watching but guys like this use Jarell Miller's as punching bags and Miller is much tougher then Stiverne.

Stivern e has no chance to win this fight outside of a freak accident. Lol

Stop pushing this myth. He got completely toyed with and dismantled by Usyk, failing to even come close to winning a single round. The whole fight is on youtube if you need a refresher.

In saying that I have Joyce beating Stiverne. He hits hard and can take a punch. I think he'll break Stiverne down and stop him; he has the stamina and never stops throwing. I can see this being Stiverne's last big fight before calling it a day. He's 40 now and can't take much more punishment.

[deathofaclown]

Joyce will smash him. Stiverne has never been great. He should toughness to go 12 with Wilder and beat a shot Arreola. After that, he was going life and death with Rossy.

Joyce will demolish him in a few rounds and i'm not even sold on Joyce. He's big and strong and will be difficult to beat for big lumps like Stiverne. Someone with movement such as Fury is going to make Joyce look awful though but Joyce will whoop a punching bag like Stiverne.

[The Problem Child]

I just bet 500 on Stiverne on Bovada. He got this.

[Marchegiano]

Chased me out what are you talking about? He obviously sees more in Joyce than i do. Not a problem.

What has Joyce done to prove he can hang in the division? His competition aren't even worthy of a ranking.

I don't see Joyce as a massive favourite.

Fought recently.

[Azzie]

Stop pushing this myth. He got completely toyed with and dismantled by Usyk, failing to even come close to winning a single round. The whole fight is on youtube if you need a refresher.

In saying that I have Joyce beating Stiverne. He hits hard and can take a punch. I think he'll break Stiverne down and stop him; he has the stamina and never stops throwing. I can see this being Stiverne's last big fight before calling it a day. He's 40 now and can't take much more punishment.

You really believe Joyce has not improved since fighting Usyk 6 years ago, you know Joyce started boxing at the age of 22 and Usyk was much more experienced back then? Ignore all the facts if you are a casual.

[Shrap]

You really believe Joyce has not improved since fighting Usyk 6 years ago, you know Joyce started boxing at the age of 22 and Usyk was much more experienced back then? Ignore all the facts if you are a casual.

Go back and read my post - there was no comment about him improving or not improving since then. It was just about Usyk dominating Joyce in that fight and my prediction of Joyce beating Stiverne.