Stiverne a 9/1 underdog against Joyce is crazy.

[daggum]

You didnt get the Wilder/Fury PPV. He was on the undercard, knocking someone out in the first round. This is definately a test, to see if Stiverne still wants to do this. Abel Sanchez is on Joyce's corner, so you know he must be tough

no no no no i did not. that crap was on the undercard? wow they dont even pretend to try anymore

[MusoMeanderings]

Old fatso Stiverne is in it for the money. KO 1.

[Marchegiano]

Did Jugs chase Robbie out of his own thread?


It's been a long time since we've seen Bermane look good. Wilder dismantled him in 2015. In that time I feel like, generally speaking, the HW division has improved. Bermane hasn't even proven he can hang with the current division let alone a noteworthy name from the division.

Bermane proved himself during the K2 era. He's really just a leftover K2 era fighter who held the WBC while the new era geared up.

[daggum]

Did Jugs chase Robbie out of his own thread?


It's been a long time since we've seen Bermane look good. Wilder dismantled him in 2015. In that time I feel like, generally speaking, the HW division has improved. Bermane hasn't even proven he can hang with the current division let alone a noteworthy name from the division.

Bermane proved himself during the K2 era. He's really just a leftover K2 era fighter who held the WBC while the new era geared up.

never is a long time.

he did? by beating arreola? by beating arreola twice?

[Robbie Barrett]

Did Jugs chase Robbie out of his own thread?


It's been a long time since we've seen Bermane look good. Wilder dismantled him in 2015. In that time I feel like, generally speaking, the HW division has improved. Bermane hasn't even proven he can hang with the current division let alone a noteworthy name from the division.

Bermane proved himself during the K2 era. He's really just a leftover K2 era fighter who held the WBC while the new era geared up.

Chased me out what are you talking about? He obviously sees more in Joyce than i do. Not a problem.

What has Joyce done to prove he can hang in the division? His competition aren't even worthy of a ranking.

I don't see Joyce as a massive favourite.

[John Locke]

Joyce is going to knock Stiverne into next year, The Juggernaut is for real

['b']

stirverne is a bum but i've never seen joyce fight. lets just assume he's a bum. hes still a bum in his prime vs an old shot bum so advantage goes to prime bum

nice explanation!

[low blows]

They both aren't world beaters. That's the point. Stiverne has fought and beat a higher level of comp though. Joyce has only had 7 fights. I see them as around the same level. The bookies are overrating Joyce and underrating Stiverne because of the Wilder KO. Stiverne looks in much better shape for this fight.

No Stiverne looks portly in his track suit and it will show at the weigh in. He looks like a weekend warrior who hits the gym 2 to 3 days a week and eats what he wants.

If he were about 225 or so, he might not win, but at 250+ he has no shot less a lucky counter punch.

[daggum]

No Stiverne looks portly in his track suit and it will show at the weigh in. He looks like a weekend warrior who hits the gym 2 to 3 days a week and eats what he wants.

If he were about 225 or so, he might not win, but at 250+ he has no shot less a lucky counter punch.

2 to 3 times a life time

[DuckAdonis]

Would be very surprised if Stiverne fat ass can do anything