Stiverne a 9/1 underdog against Joyce is crazy.

[BigZ44]

Getting caught early by a massive puncher doesn't automatically make a fighter shot.

How about getting knocked down and going life and death with Derric Rossy?

[Robbie Barrett]

Joyce is 6'6 270 pounds and can punch. He's done 100's of rounds with Joshua and has brutalized guys in sparring and has a win over Hrgovic who at the time was a national champion .

Joyce only loss is to Usyk and that was 6 years ago , I don't know what you guys are watching but guys like this use Jarell Miller's as punching bags and Miller is much tougher then Stiverne.

Stivern e has no chance to win this fight outside of a freak accident. Lol

What i've seen of Joyce is he's slow and gets hit a lot. Stiverne can crack. I wouldnt say Stiverne will win but he has a good chance imo. No way should he be 9/1, Stiverne by KO is 12/1. Crazy odds.

[juggernaut666]

What i've seen of Joyce is he's slow and gets hit a lot. Stiverne can crack. I wouldnt say Stiverne will win but he has a good chance imo. No way should he be 9/1, Stiverne by KO is 12/1. Crazy odds.

Hes slow but he doesn't need speed , he hits you by walking you into oncoming shots. He's also not as slow as you think when he has someone stunned. He's an excellent finisher and doesn't tire out . These are all bad ingredients for opponents facing a 6'6 260 plus pounder who drains you from opening bell.

Stiviernes going to have a very bad night no matter what shape he's in.

[daggum]

stirverne is a bum but i've never seen joyce fight. lets just assume he's a bum. hes still a bum in his prime vs an old shot bum so advantage goes to prime bum

[juggernaut666]

stirverne is a bum but i've never seen joyce fight. lets just assume he's a bum. hes still a bum in his prime vs an old shot bum so advantage goes to prime bum

Steve Plunger would appreciate your post! According to him Joyce is a bum if he can't win a world title....hell he didn't think Joyce even makes it as a pro.

Olympic champions aren't bums!

The odds are actual lower then higher , Stiverne hasn't won a real fight since 5 years ago , he's going to get crushed!

[Eddy Current]

Stiverne from 5 years ago it may be 50/50. He seemed pretty shot going into that second Wilder fight then got KTFO in that fight, so I'd say he's shot AF at this point.

[boliodogs]

Joyce is slow but he hits very hard and takes a a punch well. The odds sound about right to me.

[Sable&Whitefish]

When Joyce fights it looks like he's underwater. This is a fight that he's meant to win, though, and there's something to be said for that, a Stiverne win would be an "upset" just because Joyce is being fast tracked and if he lost it would mean he crumbled at the first mild test.

If Stiverne shows up in shape I'd maybe call it a 65 - 35 fight in Joyce's favor just because he's 7 years younger and actually spends time in the gym and he's being "groomed".

[SHO_RULEZ]

stirverne is a bum but i've never seen joyce fight. lets just assume he's a bum. hes still a bum in his prime vs an old shot bum so advantage goes to prime bum

You didnt get the Wilder/Fury PPV. He was on the undercard, knocking someone out in the first round. This is definately a test, to see if Stiverne still wants to do this. Abel Sanchez is on Joyce's corner, so you know he must be tough

[Sable&Whitefish]

Stiverne from 5 years ago it may be 50/50. He seemed pretty shot going into that second Wilder fight then got KTFO in that fight, so I'd say he's shot AF at this point.

He was a late replacement for Ortiz (?) in that fight, he just wanted a paycheck. Hopefully he's actually trained for this fight. Not saying it's a 50/50 but it should be better than that second Wilder fight. The first time around he took Wilder the distance and was the only one to do it 'til Fury came along.