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  • champion4ever
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    #21
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Arum hasn't said they won't take part in a purse bid, and the reason a bid hasn't been called is because both sides asked for it to be postponed so they could negotiate a deal.

    Wilder isn't in any position to dictate anything to anybody. He is damaged goods with no credibilty as a legit champion outside of the LDBC and the rest of his deluded, reality denying fanboys.
    It's clear as day why the rematch is off and has been canceled. It's because of Tyson Fury.

    The man simply has confidence and insecurity issues. Hell I can't blame him. That 12th round knockdown nearly decapitated him and was a life changing experience for him.

    He thought he had died. It put the fear of God in so that it left him both mentally and psychologically scarred.

    He fears if he ever fights Wilder again he just may end up knocked out, hospitalized or even worse.

    Moreover, Fury thought he had sustained some kind of long lasting injury or permanent brain damage as a result of that 12th round two punch head shot from Deontay Wilder.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #22
      yeah wilder is really damaged goods!

      still wbc champ....never left his feet...not twice! not even once! lol

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        #23
        Originally posted by sicko
        ESPN is not going to accept Fury vs Pulev! ESPN WANTS big match ups they not just giving Fury money as a donation and for him to go on their Network and fight Inferior Opponents or the Rest of his Contract. Fury was signed with the HOPE to still make Wilder vs Fury II but this time they can be involved in that coverage by having Fury Signed!

        ESPN want quality fights not just Arum In House BS!
        Absolutely right. In order for Arum/ESPN to get ROFI (return on funds invested) there has to be a Joshua or Wilder fight. No other hwt bring that kind of money. Throw in that team Joshua flat out ain’t gonna let anyone have that big of a piece of the pie and it’s easy to see Wilder has some real power here.

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          #24
          Originally posted by just the facts
          Absolutely right. In order for Arum/ESPN to get ROFI (return on funds invested) there has to be a Joshua or Wilder fight. No other hwt bring that kind of money. Throw in that team Joshua flat out ain’t gonna let anyone have that big of a piece of the pie and it’s easy to see Wilder has some real power here.
          thing is...i dont think that there is any guarantee for fury that reaches that kind of number that they threw out there..i think that number they floated has what they estimate him to earn for a wilder and for an AJ fight...i may be wrong but i really feel like thats the case

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            #25
            Originally posted by kafkod
            Wilder isn't in any position to dictate anything to anybody. He is damaged goods with no credibilty as a legit champion outside of the LDBC and the rest of his deluded, reality denying fanboys.
            Wilder is in a much better position to dictate conditions and terms of this championship bout than either ESPN, Arum, Warren or Fury. You are forgetting something and that is "The Bronze Bomber is in the catbird seat.

            He is the WBC's heavyweight champion and current titleholder. Therefore, all roads leads through him. He doesn't have to come to ESPN to defend his title against Tyson Fury if he doesn't want to. It's his prerogative.

            Also, Wilder doesn't owe Tyson Fury shit. He threw him a lifeline after Fury got on both his hands and knees and begged him for a charitable voluntary defense of his WBC title which he did not earn or deserve but out of the kindness of Deontay's heart he granted it to him.

            He probably would have been better off leaving that doping, juicing, drug cheat out on the streets where he found him. The useless bum.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              yeah wilder is really damaged goods!

              still wbc champ....never left his feet...not twice! not even once! lol
              Tell this dude something Curt! Fury's fans feel entitled as if Deontay Wilder owes them something but The champ doesn't owe them shit.

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              • kafkod
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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Wilder is in a much better position to dictate conditions and terms of this championship bout than either ESPN, Arum, Warren or Fury. You are forgetting something and that is "The Bronze Bomber is in the catbird seat.

                He is the WBC's heavyweight champion and current titleholder. Therefore, all roads leads through him. He doesn't have to come to ESPN to defend his title against Tyson Fury if he doesn't want to. It's his prerogative.

                Also, Wilder doesn't owe Tyson Fury shit. He threw him a lifeline after Fury got on both his hands and knees and begged him for a charitable voluntary defense of his WBC title which he did not earn or deserve but out of the kindness of Deontay's heart he granted it to him.

                He probably would have been better off leaving that doping, juicing, drug cheat out on the streets where he found him. The useless bum.
                Enjoy Wilder vs Calzaghe. I think Calzaghe has a great chance of beating the half-wit can crusher, btw.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #28
                  We all know he isn't living in reality. He wanted 50% against Joshua before he'd even earned more than 2 mil.

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                    #29
                    Nothing wrong with setting the bar high... financially speaking anyhow

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      Arum is always reluctant to put one of his money fighter in harms way if there is anything he can do to prevent it
                      Uh, what?



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