Will Wilder fight Fury on ESPN or duck?

[HanzGruber]

Who said he wouldn't fight Fury? Most on here thought it was a cherry pick. He didn't choose to fight Povetkin that was his mandatory .

People also said he won’t take the rematch but it’s been clear he only wants to fight Tyson next. Now bobs in the picture it prob won’t happen. To call him a duck is ******ed

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People also said he won’t take the rematch but it’s been clear he only wants to fight Tyson next. Now bobs in the picture it prob won’t happen. To call him a duck is ******ed

He needs the rematch or he fights for 2 million now. Wilder will be more prone to lose the rematch so you've lost me . Bob can't stop the fight only Wilder can. Fury already stated he may take another fight unless Wilder fights him on the terms he makes . You guys said Wilder doesn't need to be on Joshuas terms so why does Fury?

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what if theres no date or venue on the contract!!!

[15 Rounds again]

Fought Ortiz when people said he wouldn’t. Fought fury when people said he wouldn’t. Was gonna fight pedvetkin but he was dirty. This is why I don’t respond to new accounts ydksab

You're lauding him just for normal things expected of a champion.
Sure, he took on Ortiz, but that is what he is supposed to do. Sure he took on Fury, but he us supposed to (and it could be argued that he didnt think he was grabbing a tiger by the tail). But just because he took a couple of small , normal, risky opponents, does that forgive him from mouthing off for years about "one name.one face one champion" and then being unwilling to back up.his mouth even when.preseneted with what every reasonable boxing observer concedes are extremely generous terms? No, it does not.

[champion4ever]

Fury fought on Wilders terms in the first fight and was robbed. Fury came away the winner. Wilder is the one that needs to prove himself. Running away from a fight because you can't stack the deck again isn't a good look.

That's all said and done but the one thing you fail to remember is that Deontay Wider is yet the WBC's current heavyweight champion and titleholder. He is in the catbird seat.

Therefore, all roads leads through him. So he doesn't have to defend his title against Tyson Fury on ESPN if he doesn't want to. If Tyson really want the fight then he would come over to the PBC and Showtime in order to iron out a deal.

Also, Tyson Fury did not win the first bout. It was officially ruled a draw. Therefore the champion which is Deontay Wilder retains the title.

He he won, then he would have been in a much stronger position to dictate terms and conditions for the rematch. However, if Tyson Fury was robbed as you say he was, then it was because of his own undoing.

Remember that it was Tyson who chose the venue not Deontay Wilder. Everyone including his promoter; Frank Warren wanted the fight to be convened in Las Vegas where they would have earn more money but that didn't seem matter to Fury.

He was more concerned about neutral judges from other countries to put him in a better position to win a decision on the scorecards. So that was not Deontay Wilder's fault that the judges didn't award him the decision. It was his.

So now he finds himself in dilemma on whether or not does he still really wants this fight. If so then he should ditch ESPN and go back to Team Wilder and renegotiate in good faith before Wilder walks and fights someone else and Tyson would become a lost and forgotten man again.

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That's all said and done but the one thing you fail to remember is that Deontay Wider is yet the WBC's current heavyweight champion and titleholder. He is in the catbird seat.

Therefore, all roads leads through him. So he doesn't have to defend his title against Tyson Fury on ESPN if he doesn't want to. If Tyson really want the fight then he would come over to the PBC and Showtime in order to iron out a deal.

Also, Tyson Fury did not win the first bout. It was officially ruled a draw. Therefore the champion which is Deontay Wilder retains the title.

He he won, then he would have been in a much stronger position to dictate terms and conditions for the rematch. However, if Tyson Fury was robbed as you say he was, then it was because of his own undoing.

Remember that it was Tyson who chose the venue not Deontay Wilder. Everyone including his promoter; Frank Warren wanted the fight to be convened in Las Vegas where they would have earn more money but that didn't seem matter to Fury.

He was more concerned about neutral judges from other countries to put him in a better position to win a decision on the scorecards. So that was not Deontay Wilder's fault that the judges didn't award him the decision. It was his.

So now he finds himself in dilemma on whether or not does he still really wants this fight. If so then he should ditch ESPN and go back to Team Wilder and renegotiate in good faith before Wilder walks and fights someone else and Tyson would become a lost and forgotten man again.

Explain the bit where you say Tyson Fury getting robbed was his own undoing? How is it a fighter's fault if he gets robbed? Kovalev also wants to know re: the first fight with Ward.

[champion4ever]

Explain the bit where you say Tyson Fury getting robbed was his own undoing? How is it a fighter's fault if he gets robbed? Kovalev also wants to know re: the first fight with Ward.

It's because Tyson Fury chose both the venue and the judging; That neither team wanted. They preferred venues in Las Vegas or New York instead.

However, Fury was hard headed. He forged on anyway by choosing to convene the fight in California because he wanted neutral judges from different countries; Which was against the wishes of both teams, his advisors and Frank Warren who had warned him that it would be a bad idea to begin with.

He has nobody to blame for that blemish on his record but himself. All Tyson Fury needs to do is look in the mirror and he will find the culprit. It's weak to blame others for your shortcomings; Especially when they are self-inflicted.

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Because Tyson Fury chose both the venue and the judging; That neither team wanted. They preferred venues in Las Vegas or New York instead.

However, Fury was hard headed. He forged on anyway by choosing to convene the fight in California because he wanted neutral judges from different countries.; Which was against the wishes of both teams, his advisors and Frank Warren who had warned him that it would be a bad idea to begin with.

He has nobody to blame for that blemish on his record but himself. All Tyson Fury needs to do is look in the mirror and he will find the culprit. It's weak to blame others for your shortcomings; Especially when they are self-inflicted.

What a ridiculous and illogical argument.
Just because he chose a commercially un-viable location, or a location that was otherwise ill advised, he still entered into it with an expectation of fairness.

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People also said he won’t take the rematch but it’s been clear he only wants to fight Tyson next. Now bobs in the picture it prob won’t happen. To call him a duck is ******ed

how does bob being involved stop wilder? wilder is a network free agent he said it himself

[champion4ever]

What a ridiculous and illogical argument.
Just because he chose a commercially un-viable location, or a location that was otherwise ill advised, he still entered into it with an expectation of fairness.

Are you even listening to what I am saying man? Are you that dense and illiterate that you can't comprehend facts, proof, evidence and history.

I guess you are because if you were capable, then you wouldn't be trolling on an alternate user account now would you? I feel like this is both a waste of my time and exercise in futility addressing you. You are not looking to be informed you just want to argue.

Moreover, you need tell that to the three judges who scored the fight a draw and not me because I was not privy to being one of the three official judges who scored the fight.

You are another Tyson Fury. Always blaming others for your moral failings and shortcomings without even examining yourself.