Kovalev Missed 1 VADA Test in January? Eleider had 2

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  • KTFOKING
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    #11
    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
    So you’re saying Pac Broner both got tested 3 times during fight month, but Alvarez 2 times, and Kovalev just 1 time?

    That report is directly from VADA. Did you honestly look at the list?

    Eleider Alvarez Jan. 4th collection
    Sergey Kovalev Jan. 5th collection

    Eleider Alvarez Jan. 8th collection
    Sergey Kovalev ????????

    From the report Kovalev did not have a follow up test like Alvarez on the 8-9th, weeks before the fight.
    So does this only show tests for the WBC program or all tests? I'm on my phone and that pic is too small.

    But either way, Kovalev isn't allowed a missed test for a fight with VADA contracted testing.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #12
      Originally posted by thekenneth
      Vada's site says congratulations for both completing testing. maybe they just only asked Kovalev to do one test?
      That’s my point. Since when had this ever been implemented by two promoters agreeing that another gets waived?!

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #13
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        How do you get to the conclusion that Kovalev missed one test? Maybe he was tested at the end of december and Alvarez wasn't. Or maybe VADA was appeared to test him just once.
        Not sure auditing would be your expertise, but the information is in your face with the VADa report I posted.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
          He’s a cheater just like his fellow countryman Povetkin
          He isn't a cheater until he fails a test and he never has. That fact that Povetkin is his countryman has nothing to do with anything. That's like saying if one American boxer is caught cheating then every American boxer is a cheater.

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            #15
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            He isn't a cheater until he fails a test and he never has. That fact that Povetkin is his countryman has nothing to do with anything. That's like saying if one American boxer is caught cheating then every American boxer is a cheater.
            No that’s not like what I was saying. He got caught skipping tests so he’s a cheater. He’s a cheater just like Povetkin

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              #16
              Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
              “Necessarily?” My friend, VADA is about necessity for clean sport. Have you guys ever seen how May PAC tests were reported? It’s always 1:1 testing. If fighter A gets 3 tests the other gets 3 tests, both promoters pay for this

              Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #17
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                He isn't a cheater until he fails a test and he never has. That fact that Povetkin is his countryman has nothing to do with anything. That's like saying if one American boxer is caught cheating then every American boxer is a cheater.
                So VADA testing is 1:1. Let’s you and I be promoters. My guy has agreed to do the same amount of random tests as your guy, VADA will handle the random tests.

                Your fighter and my fighter gets tested on week A.

                Week B, my fighter gets tested, but your fighter didn’t.

                I talk to my fighter and say, “look we got a situation here...your fight might be cancelled, and I don’t know when or how I’ll be able to reschedule, and plus, they got a clause for the rematch. They’ve agreed to compensate us and we can’t disclose what happened. We’ll have to sign some new contracts agreeing with this...Its your call, we can still make this fight get paid. It’s your call.”

                Remember that VADA just does testing. Their not held accountable if promoters agree to any new stipulations made in new contracts.

                It’s a bit comedic why these reporters just leak out reports like this.

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                  #18
                  May-Pac was huge stakes, a lot of negotiation, most fights aren't going to have a clause making sure both fighters are tested the exact same number of times. Notice how Mikey is tested twice but Spence 0 times.

                  They wouldn't release the figures showing Kov missed a test but not mention that Kov missed a test. Remember how Charlo missing a test came out before his fight, but here nothing has been said even though it's after the fight and the figures are publicly available.

                  The real concern is that while we like to think guys in the CBP are clean, only 9 were tested in 1 month. Less than 1 guy per division. Probably a lot of cheats still taking their chances with those odds, especially as of the 9 I've only heard of 2 of them (Whyte, Ugas) so the big names likely feel safe from risk.
                  Last edited by Clegg; 02-16-2019, 07:31 PM.

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                  • jmrf4435
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                    #19
                    kovalev really dominated him

                    Drug test got nuttn do wit it

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Clegg
                      They wouldn't release the figures showing Kov missed a test but not mention that Kov missed a test. .
                      Who’s “they?”

                      If you mean VADA, they don’t care, they’re not sanctioning the fight nor making any decisions for fights. They just do the testing for the promoters whom agree or disagree with a problem and go into new contracts to salvage a fight or it gets cancelled, postponed.

                      Again, VADA does 1:1. These reports aren’t meant to be leaked out. They’re not expecting the public to analyze those reports, and any fabrication would get them into a lot of trouble with snitches in the industry, so they know it’s best to disclose all information. Besides, the promoters are the one’s who know why Kovalev was only tested once.

                      The Charlo’s were penalized and VADA had to make a public disclaimer to cover their asses.

                      “WBC Clean Boxing Program whereabouts urgent advisory

                      Every single fighter who is enrolled in the WBC Clean Boxing Program is responsible for his acts. Trainers, managers and promoters must be aware of, and participate directly in the CBP compliance in support of the fighters they represent.

                      I have seen with deep concern the so many criticisms against WBC champion Jermel Charlo and interim champion Jermall Charlo regarding their missed tests.

                      It is important for the WBC to clarify that both Charlos have been tested in the past and that the infraction they are facing is a missed test, which has been acknowledged and they will be responsible to pay the corresponding fine. It is important, however, to clarify that they have not tested positive for any substance whatsoever.

                      This is why it is extremely urgent for all boxers to enroll in the CBP and to update at all times their residence and training location to VADA, which is the agency administrating the CBP for the WBC.

                      It is very simple, if you are chosen for testing and are not available for the collector to test you, you will be incurring a missed test penalty.

                      It is of extreme importance that every fighter updates their whereabouts forms with VADA at all times
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