Comments Thread For: Jim Lampley Recalls Bizarre Buster Douglas-Mike Tyson Broadcast

[apollocreed]

So if Deontay rights his wrong against Fury the baby oil , the voodoo, the pressure of PPV, his mouth hurting and all the others excuses doesn’t matter because he did the business in the rematch??

Prison, hookers and not training is more of a valid reason than doing to many rehearsals in a movie script. Which is more detrimental to your career? You can choose to ignore them as much as you want but any unbiased individual can at least acknowledge these vices had some semblance to his downfall. “Now it serves him right “and “who cares he is his own man” and words to this effect I can tolerate but to tell me about oceans 11 then have the nerve to ridicule drugs and hookers, is bizarre to say the least

You must be ****** mate. I've just pointed out already - Lewis immediately won the rematch! That proved he wasn't well prepared for the first fight. He prepared properly and Rahman was KTFO.
Tyson never turned his career around when he started declining, it was just a litany of excuses. He didn't come back from his adversity, he just stumbled from one disaster to the next.
Tyson was a **** up. His fans will never admit it, but that's the truth.

[Noelanthony]

You must be ****** mate. I've just pointed out already - Lewis immediately won the rematch! That proved he wasn't well prepared for the first fight. He prepared properly and Rahman was KTFO.
Tyson never turned his career around when he started declining, it was just a litany of excuses. He didn't come back from his adversity, he just stumbled from one disaster to the next.
Tyson was a **** up. His fans will never admit it, but that's the truth.

With the greatest of respect are you a ******? He got caught flush and was knocked out. Only you want to put that loss down to oceans 11 lol. Wait so if a boxer gets beat and he rematch’s and wins Apollocreed is daft enough to believe the boxer wins the rematch because :- 1) the boxer said so and 2) if a boxer gets knocked out first fight but knocks out opponent in rematch it means the first fight he was ill prepared. Yeah I get it

[apollocreed]

With the greatest of respect are you a ******? He got caught flush and was knocked out. Only you want to put that loss down to oceans 11 lol. Wait so if a boxer gets beat and he rematch’s and wins Apollocreed is daft enough to believe the boxer wins the rematch because :- 1) the boxer said so and 2) if a boxer gets knocked out first fight but knocks out opponent in rematch it means the first fight he was ill prepared. Yeah I get it

Yeah you are ******. Thought so. He was clearly not prepared for the first fight. He won the second one when he was tuned up. I'm not saying it as an excuse. The fact that he won the rematch so definitively speaks for itself.
He righted the wrong. He showed the world the real Lewis. No one could say anything after that. He proved who was the better fighter.
Tyson never did that. Once he started declining, that was it, his mystique was gone and he never got it back. He just continued to **** up his career

[Noelanthony]

Yeah you are ******. Thought so. He was clearly not prepared for the first fight. He won the second one when he was tuned up. I'm not saying it as an excuse. The fact that he won the rematch so definitively speaks for itself.
He righted the wrong. He showed the world the real Lewis. No one could say anything after that. He proved who was the better fighter.
Tyson never did that. Once he started declining, that was it, his mystique was gone and he never got it back. He just continued to **** up his career

“He showed the world” I can hear the passion in your words. Lololololol

Marquez didn’t train correctly for the 3 Pacquiao and the 4th fight as he stated he trained like a man possessed. That’s why he got the knockout??

[apollocreed]

“He showed the world” I can hear the passion in your words. Lololololol

Marquez didn’t train correctly for the 3 Pacquiao and the 4th fight as he stated he trained like a man possessed. That’s why he got the knockout??

I don't understand your point, you've not expressed it very well, but it doesn't matter, this is going nowhere.
I've made my point numerous times already, but I'll do it again. I'm not making excuses for Lewis, he lost the first fight. BUT HE PROVED HE WASN'T AT HIS BEST IN THE FIRST FIGHT BY OUTCLASSING RAHMAN AND KNOCKING HIM OUT SENSATIONALLY IN THE IMMEDIATE REMATCH.
Tyson wasn't at his best vs Douglas, I never said he was.
Overall I've seen enough from peak Lewis and peak Tyson to say that I believe Lewis was the better fighter. Late 90's Lewis would beat 80's Tyson imo.

[The D3vil]

Your post makes it sound like Mike was some kind of innocent ****** falling prey to the evil King.

The truth is he went to King because that's what thugs do: they associate.

Tyson had been arrested 32 times before 11. And while under Cayton and D'Amato's wing, he still assaulted numerous women and remained free thanks to Cayton settling out of court.

While in jail, he called King a SOB but still went with him after getting out in 95.

He then paid Lewis step aside money and relinquished the WBC belt as to avoid him.

He called Foreman an animal he would never fight.

He picked Holy only because he was perceived as hopelessly washed up from the Bowe and Moorer beatings.

The lies y'all tell y'allselves

He did fall prey to Don King, so did Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, and Tim Witherspoon. Were they all thugs too?

He was a naive hoodlum from the ****** who had been sheltered by Cus D'Amato, Jim Jacobs, and Bill Katon when it came to matters of business.

I agree Tyson had a troubled history, but that has nothing to do with any of what we're talking about.

The fact is that when Tyson signed with King, Holyfield, Lewis, and Foreman weren't even being considered or talked about. So to say he signed to King to duck them is ridiculous. Holyfield wasn't even in his weight class at that time and Foreman had been retired for 10 years at that point. Lennox Lewis didn't even turn pro until 1989.

It's ridiculous.

He fought Holmes and Holmes was only a few years past being champion and was wayyy better in 1988 than Foreman was after being gone for a decade.

By the time Lennox, Evander, and Foreman were dangerous, Mike had gone to prison and was past his prime.

[Noelanthony]

I don't understand your point, you've not expressed it very well, but it doesn't matter, this is going nowhere.
I've made my point numerous times already, but I'll do it again. I'm not making excuses for Lewis, he lost the first fight. BUT HE PROVED HE WASN'T AT HIS BEST IN THE FIRST FIGHT BY OUTCLASSING RAHMAN AND KNOCKING HIM OUT SENSATIONALLY IN THE IMMEDIATE REMATCH.
Tyson wasn't at his best vs Douglas, I never said he was.
Overall I've seen enough from peak Lewis and peak Tyson to say that I believe Lewis was the better fighter. Late 90's Lewis would beat 80's Tyson imo.

I beg to differ. What happens now? A truce perhaps or shall we watch this oceans 11 to see if the film was worth him getting knocked out cold for?

[4truth]

Don't know who was worse for Tyson, King, Givens or just his own success. All I know is that Tyson in 87-88 wasn't ducking anyone and was the baddest man in boxing. By the time he fought Douglas he was on the decline.

[epyh]

He was a naive hoodlum from the ****** who had been sheltered by Cus D'Amato, Jim Jacobs, and Bill Katon when it came to matters of business.

I agree Tyson had a troubled history, but that has nothing to do with any of what we're talking about.

It takes a special kind of hoodlum to turn your back on those who rescued you from guaranteed life in prison, made you an overnight multi-millionaire superstar and covered for your assaults and battery on women, and then chose to sign with the vilest and most notorious corrupt promoter in the game.

By 1988, when he signed, King was known for his crimes against fighters like Ali, Witherspoon, and many others who sued an won settlements in court.

That's with who Tyson chose to sign.
Poor Mike; he was such a naive victim.

Give me a break, ******.

[OCPancho]

You must be ****** mate. I've just pointed out already - Lewis immediately won the rematch! That proved he wasn't well prepared for the first fight. He prepared properly and Rahman was KTFO.
Tyson never turned his career around when he started declining, it was just a litany of excuses. He didn't come back from his adversity, he just stumbled from one disaster to the next.
Tyson was a **** up. His fans will never admit it, but that's the truth.

Didn't he become the WBC and WBA champion again after losing to Douglas ? Beat a really good Ruddock on the way there. Not too many contenders wanted any part of Ruddock before Tyson beat him.