Comments Thread For: Jim Lampley Recalls Bizarre Buster Douglas-Mike Tyson Broadcast

[apollocreed]

Let Lewis tell you himself. Mike Tyson was a bad dude that he was fearful to spar talk less of fighting. Listen nobody is saying he is a saint. He may well of done all the things they say and more but when he entered that ring he was a bad dude. Tyson lost to some bums like Danny Williams but please believe me all of his loses they would not have lasted 5 rounds when he was 21years.

Lennox Lewis was a great fighter but his 2 losses he was knocked out twice by one punch. I’m of the opinion Lewis gets flatlined by Tyson. Now if the topic was being a paragon of virtue Tyson wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.

As for foreman he was nothing on his return, didn’t Morrison batter him and Michael M was schooling him until he was flatlined

You're opinion is just that - your opinion only.
Peak Lewis (mid - late 90's) would break Tyson down imo.
Tyson fans always bleat about Lewis's two losses as if they prove Tyson would beat him.
He was badly under trained for the Rahman fight after filming Oceans 11 and getting to South Africa late.
You saw how he dealt with Rahman in the rematch.
He got caught by a great punch by McCall, but he actually could have continue imo. He got up and I've seen fighters being allowed to continue in worse states.
That was before he went to Steward and tightened up anyway.
If Lewis had a dodgy chin, he couldn't have had the career he did, beating all the big punchers he faced.
Tyson was always a come forward fighter, Lewis had all the tools to pick him apart and walk him onto big hurtful shots.

[epyh]

I remember back in 1988 Larry Holmes and Tyson having a face to face confrontation before their fight, and Holmes flatly stating "I'm going down in history as one of the greatest HW champions, while you're going down as a sonofa*****".

Can't find the exact quote.

[epyh]

Lennox Lewis was a great fighter but his 2 losses he was knocked out twice by one punch. I’m of the opinion Lewis gets flatlined by Tyson.

Tyson was a swarmer, and like all swarmers had a short prime while looking like a million bucks vs average opposition.

This is why he needed King to protect him after 95 from real contenders.

And prime swarmer vs prime swarmer, Foreman bodies Tyson on his way to the ring.

[Noelanthony]

Tyson was a swarmer, and like all swarmers had a short prime while looking like a million bucks vs average opposition.

This is why he needed King to protect him after 95 from real contenders.

And prime swarmer vs prime swarmer, Foreman bodies Tyson on his way to the ring.

We talking the same Foreman that got battered by Morrison?

[Noelanthony]

You're opinion is just that - your opinion only.
Peak Lewis (mid - late 90's) would break Tyson down imo.
Tyson fans always bleat about Lewis's two losses as if they prove Tyson would beat him.
He was badly under trained for the Rahman fight after filming Oceans 11 and getting to South Africa late.
You saw how he dealt with Rahman in the rematch.
He got caught by a great punch by McCall, but he actually could have continue imo. He got up and I've seen fighters being allowed to continue in worse states.
That was before he went to Steward and tightened up anyway.
If Lewis had a dodgy chin, he couldn't have had the career he did, beating all the big punchers he faced.
Tyson was always a come forward fighter, Lewis had all the tools to pick him apart and walk him onto big hurtful shots.

The time they would have. Fought there was no Emmanuel Stewart to save him. That sounds like an excuse to me too. He was filming Beverly hill cops and his chin collapsed as a result? You say he wins I say Mike wins. I say the two fighters that knocked him out cold Tyson is better than both and hits harder as well as better defence. Maybe he can’t beat Lewis but you can’t be ignorant enough to say he can’t

[Noelanthony]

You're just emphasising my point - unless you're just trying to troll me again??
It's one ****ing excuse after another after another with Tyson.
Douglas could have got up quicker, if you watch the footage, he was clear headed and ****** his fist on the floor in frustration.
If the ref counted quicker, he could have got up quicker.

Yes that makes sense. The referee counts quicker he gets up quicker. You knew this watching it on the Tv the very next day. Excuse after excuse you say. Yet with the same breath talk about Lewis filming Oceans 11 and not training lol.... then trying to justify your excuse by telling me about the rematch between Lewis and Rahman like Lewis is the first and only person that have not won a rematch having originally losing the first fight . please be consistent with your criticism of fighters and judge with the same yardstick

[jbpanama]

What hook ?

It's Tyson that hooked King so he could make easy millions while freezing out Holyfield, Lewis and Foreman.

U got a point...

King got Mike away from the Discipline Gus had instilled in Him...

I only think a couple of Prime Heavyweights could have Beat Mike on the night Berbick fell...

Prime Liston and Foreman I think are Two that could have handled Mike that Night...

[apollocreed]

U got a point...

King got Mike away from the Discipline Gus had instilled in Him...

I only think a couple of Prime Heavyweights could have Beat Mike on the night Berbick fell...

Prime Liston and Foreman I think are Two that could have handled Mike that Night...

Didn’t prime Liston get outboxed by Ali in ‘64?

[apollocreed]

Yes that makes sense. The referee counts quicker he gets up quicker. You knew this watching it on the Tv the very next day. Excuse after excuse you say. Yet with the same breath talk about Lewis filming Oceans 11 and not training lol.... then trying to justify your excuse by telling me about the rematch between Lewis and Rahman like Lewis is the first and only person that have not won a rematch having originally losing the first fight . please be consistent with your criticism of fighters and judge with the same yardstick

There is one major difference here between Tyson fans excuses and me saying Lewis was unprepared v Rahman - Lewis actually righted the wrong.
Tyson never sorted his **** out and came back to his peak once his career started declining. It was downhill all the way with excuse after excuse.
Cus dying, Don King, Givens, Money, Women, Prison, drugs, Holyfield butting, long count v Douglas, wah wah. It’s so ****ing lame.
Lewis doesn’t need excuses, his career speaks for itself.
Lewis lost, then came back, reasserted his dominance and went out at the top.
The way he won the title straight back proved to the world the that he wasn’t at his best in the first fight.

It’s clear you’re another Tyson fan living in denial of his failings, I’ve heard it all before and I’ve got no interest in hearing it again.

[Noelanthony]

There is one major difference here between Tyson fans excuses and me saying Lewis was unprepared v Rahman - Lewis actually righted the wrong.
Tyson never sorted his **** out and came back to his peak once his career started declining. It was downhill all the way with excuse after excuse.
Cus dying, Don King, Givens, Money, Women, Prison, drugs, Holyfield butting, long count v Douglas, wah wah. It’s so ****ing lame.
Lewis doesn’t need excuses, his career speaks for itself.
Lewis lost, then came back, reasserted his dominance and went out at the top.
The way he won the title straight back proved to the world the that he wasn’t at his best in the first fight.

It’s clear you’re another Tyson fan living in denial of his failings, I’ve heard it all before and I’ve got no interest in hearing it again.

So if Deontay rights his wrong against Fury the baby oil , the voodoo, the pressure of PPV, his mouth hurting and all the others excuses doesn’t matter because he did the business in the rematch??

Prison, hookers and not training is more of a valid reason than doing to many rehearsals in a movie script. Which is more detrimental to your career? You can choose to ignore them as much as you want but any unbiased individual can at least acknowledge these vices had some semblance to his downfall. “Now it serves him right “and “who cares he is his own man” and words to this effect I can tolerate but to tell me about oceans 11 then have the nerve to ridicule drugs and hookers, is bizarre to say the least