What does P4P mean to you?

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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by deliveryman
    It means if all everyone was in the same weight class, who would be the best. And the answer to that question is Floyd Mayweather.
    Thank you. I keep trying to tell people this but they act like they just dont get it.

    Pound for Pound really means who do you think would win the fight it both guys were the same exact weight. Thats why when people say that Winky is Pound for Pound better then Floyd, I think its a joke.

    Sure many think Winky can beat Floyd but everyone knows Floyd is not a real 154 pounder. The fact is that if Winky & Floyd were the same exact size then no one would pick Winky to win. If they naturally weighed the same exact thing then not one person would pick Winky to win because he is not better then Floyd at anything and it really goes for every boxer out there.

    If everyone was the same size as Mayweather then how many of you would actually pick the other guy and the answer is 0 unless your a hater. Alot of people think Margarito can beat Floyd but its mostly only because of size.

    If him and Floyd were the same exact weight then no one would pick Margarito at all. Thats what Pound for Pound means.

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    • czars_salad
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      #12
      Originally posted by deliveryman
      It means if all everyone was in the same weight class, who would be the best. And the answer to that question is Floyd Mayweather.
      it's a toss up between floyd and winky

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      • diavoli
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        #13
        Originally posted by fabzmm
        i always thought about it was a person who could move up/down weight classes and still win. aka mayweather, winky, probally JT, prob calzag. but this is a reason why i cant put pac on there because if pac moves up, i see him losing. anyone?

        PAC has already moved up

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        • deliveryman
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          #14
          Originally posted by czars_salad
          it's a toss up between floyd and winky
          Tell me where Winky would have an advantage over Floyd if they naturally weighed exactly the same...

          Winky has one punch that is better than Floyd's... and that's the jab.

          Defense they're pretty much equal, but I'd even give that nod to Floyd.

          Power - Floyd by a hair(REMEMBER IF THEY WEIGHED THE SAME)
          Speed - Floyd
          Chin - equal
          Footwork - Floyd
          Stylistically - Floyd

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          • diavoli
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            #15
            Originally posted by deliveryman
            Power - Floyd by a hair(REMEMBER IF THEY WEIGHED THE SAME)
            Speed - Floyd
            Chin - equal
            Footwork - Floyd
            Stylistically - Floyd

            Couldn't agree more

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            • BrooklynBomber
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              #16
              Absolutely nothing.

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              • King Koyle
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                #17
                Originally posted by onetwopunch
                Its how good they are and how dominant they are in there respective weightclass or weightclasses. And the level of competition they face. You need to be fighting the best to be regarded as the best.
                I agree with this!Good post!

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                • Bogler
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  Yeah, but he wasn't fighting the best on his way to the top. IF I remembe correctly, he wasn't getting any titles moving up from 105 to 130. All it really means is that he was growing up alittle bit and he wasn't able to fight in those weight classes anymore.
                  he had titles going up, even before reaching 130.

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                  • Boxing Analyst
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                    It's a list of current fighters who are at the top of the game, beating the best opponents available and minimizing losses/slip-ups. P4P to me means Floyd Mayweather.
                    hehehe! you mean PBF fought the best? who does PBF fought in last 3 years?

                    for me P4P is: moving up in weight then beat and compete to the highest level.

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                    • Mishra100
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                      #20
                      I just don't see how you can classify it as "if they were in the same weightclass"

                      Because if you are thinking that way, then how in the hell do you compare Wlad vs Pac (You can think Calzaghe vs Pac if you don't want a heavyweight). Wlad has a huge reach and great power... Thats something Pac CAN NEVER HAVE.

                      So how do you even think about that. "Well if Pac had a bigger reach and more power and grew 2 feet then he probably would knock out Wlad"? Wtf? You can't even think like that because it just won't happen so in my opinion, you can't compare everyone on one list in terms of "skill at the same weightclass".

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