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  • #51
    Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
    Do you even watch boxing ? Ortiz is lucky to be #11 with the WBA he got kicked out of teh WBA rankings for failing a drugs test.

    He's not ranked by anyone else because he's fought nobodies since Wilder. According to boxrec he has fought just twice since Wilder the 95th and 210th rated heavyweights.

    What do you expect for that another title shot ???
    No, do you even read legit reports or do you just skim through it!?

    The WBC already did an investigation and found no wrong doings besides that he didn’t let them know that he was taking medicine for blood pressure!

    He wasn’t even suspended from the WBC rankings once the full investigation was finished but yet the WBA completely wiped him off the rankings even after the facts came out!

    This was all too convenient as when Ortiz was about to get his title shot at AJ cuz he was the WBA mandatory, AJ held it off and chooses to fight Takam instead!

    It’s hard to fight top fighters when they don’t want nothing to do with you!

    People forget both Fury and Klitschko have said Ortiz is a dangerous fighter and Hearns has even said that Ortiz is high risk!

    The man simply is high risk and low reward unless his handlers start making offers that these guys can’t refuse or if he somehow gets a title!

    Wilder already beat him and I’m sure he’d give him a rematch!

    Fury only wants the big fights with titles on the line and is about to fight Wilder again!

    AJ is about to fight Miller who has an even worse resume than Ortiz and is even less know than Ortiz is even in his own backyard!

    You fickle fan boys keep making excuses for AJ to not give Ortiz a shot cuz he fought no one or loss but Miller has an even worse resume than Ortiz and is less known!

    Face it, AJ is a robot who is told what to do by Edwards Hearns! The proof is out, he called out Ortiz but he’s fighting Miller!

    AJ got called out by Wilder and he fought Parker and Povetkin!

    Fury called out AJ and AJ was gonna fight Whyte again!

    Don’t you see the pattern?

    Even Joe Joyce don’t want smoke with Ortiz, he called out Ortiz and his team told him he wasn’t ready and now he fight Stiverne which would be a better win than anything Miller has!

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    • #52
      would not be a good look for Joshua's US debut, it can easily be spun against him for beating Wilder's leftovers and Ortiz is probably close to 50yrs old. That's how weak the HW division is, outside the top 3. The choice is between an unproven Miller or old man Ortiz.

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      • #53
        “Fight you for just about any money”

        Joshua should offer him £1. Pocket the rest.

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        • #54
          It needs to be signed before Dec 1st.......!.....lol.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by KingKrypton View Post
            Imagine being a Joshua fan and having to watch him fight the likes of Big Baby and Dillian Whyte in 2019 lmao. But funny even those guys aren't satisfied with Hearn's offer either. Wilder and Fury were right all along.
            Imagine being a Wilder fan and knowing damn well baby oil had nothing to do with him drawing the fight but you want to give him the benefit of the doubt because you care about him. You happen to spar regularly yourself so you buy yourself a bottle and massage it proudly and passionately all over your body. You go down to your local gym and call out the baddest guy thinking your baby lotion will help you slip the punches.

            5 hours later you leave the hospital with Mild concussion but you are still unsure because you did slip 2 punches

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            • #56
              Ortiz is definitely in the AJ-Hearn plan. I’d like to see Miller vs Ortiz more than AJ vs either of them.

              AJ most probably flattens Miller and I think Ortiz might earn a bit more respect with his punching power but ultimately end up like Povetkin

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                No, do you even read legit reports or do you just skim through it!?

                The WBC already did an investigation and found no wrong doings besides that he didn’t let them know that he was taking medicine for blood pressure!

                He wasn’t even suspended from the WBC rankings once the full investigation was finished but yet the WBA completely wiped him off the rankings even after the facts came out!

                This was all too convenient as when Ortiz was about to get his title shot at AJ cuz he was the WBA mandatory, AJ held it off and chooses to fight Takam instead!

                It’s hard to fight top fighters when they don’t want nothing to do with you!

                People forget both Fury and Klitschko have said Ortiz is a dangerous fighter and Hearns has even said that Ortiz is high risk!

                The man simply is high risk and low reward unless his handlers start making offers that these guys can’t refuse or if he somehow gets a title!

                Wilder already beat him and I’m sure he’d give him a rematch!

                Fury only wants the big fights with titles on the line and is about to fight Wilder again!

                AJ is about to fight Miller who has an even worse resume than Ortiz and is even less know than Ortiz is even in his own backyard!

                You fickle fan boys keep making excuses for AJ to not give Ortiz a shot cuz he fought no one or loss but Miller has an even worse resume than Ortiz and is less known!

                Face it, AJ is a robot who is told what to do by Edwards Hearns! The proof is out, he called out Ortiz but he’s fighting Miller!

                AJ got called out by Wilder and he fought Parker and Povetkin!

                Fury called out AJ and AJ was gonna fight Whyte again!

                Don’t you see the pattern?

                Even Joe Joyce don’t want smoke with Ortiz, he called out Ortiz and his team told him he wasn’t ready and now he fight Stiverne which would be a better win than anything Miller has!
                You're obviously don't read reports and just a fickle Wilder fan boy.

                Ortiz was found using a banned masking agent. If he wanted to use a banned masking agent for blood pressure he needed to register its use , he chose not too .. he was correctly banned.

                Yes its incredibly dubious We Be crooks didn't suspend him we agree there, shame on the WBC , Saunders nasal spray looks far less su****ious he could have argued the same thing but the WBO shut him down only the WBC lets this stuff fly.

                Ortiz was sent a two fight deal to fight AJ, one fight opponent of his choice on the Pulev card and then a title shot he turned it down for the Wilder fight (his manager confirmed this in an interview). Joshua had to fight the IBF challenger first or be stripped.

                I don't buy this Ortiz can't get a fight argument , Wilder used it years ago claiming Ortiz and Washington for instance would never fight him so he had to defend against bums, he tried to fight that Polish guy no one had ever heard of instead (fight fell through in the end).

                Ortiz could easily get a top 50 opponent sure its hard to get a top 10 opponent when you have no money, fans and no one outside America and Cuba rates you but America has plenty of top 50 guys available just ask Miller. Why didn't he fight a top 50 guy straight away, Parker went straight in against Whyte .... why is he choosing to fight only twice.

                I watched Ortiz I watched Hearn say he was the greatest and build him up then I watched him box and he looked old and tired and then gave up trying. Go watch those fights who would be scared of that.

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                • #58
                  I wouldn't mind Ortiz is Miller doesn't take the fight, although i think he will.

                  I'm not sure they would pick Ortiz for an American debut. He's best known for already losing to Wilder, so i don't think they will want that tag attached to AJ's debut in USA. Besides, imagine then he struggled or didn't stop him or something? it'd look bad.

                  Miller is a better fight for them in that sense as he's undefeated and will sell the fight.

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                  • #59
                    I prefer this fight to Miller. But Hearn would give it to Miller based on Matcroom

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                    • #60
                      nah, aj will only fight king kong in 3-4 years from now.

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