Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz to Joshua: If Miller Doesn't Work Out - I'm Available!

[_Rexy_]

I guess the real question from this article is how does Lara keep getting headline opportunities.

Because Lara can and has gotten screwed on the cards. Hard to screw over Ortiz on the cards because he KO’s guys. Same reason it’ll be hard for Rigo to get fights without a belt.

[SeGoodland]

“So look, if you want to fight I’m here and stop saying I priced myself out because I’ve never had no offers to fight you. With all respect to you for all you have done, I’ll fight you for just about any money you offer me so if you can’t work out the Miller fight, I’m here and ready. I’ll fight you in the USA or UK. It’s on you and if you think you’re that good and want to test yourself who better than me? Wilder and Fury are not available and I believe in my heart to be the best you must face the best."

Miller or Ortiz will be dope!! I doubt Ortiz will get the fight but if he's actually flexible on money and venue it could possibly get Hearn attention. But I think Miller is going to get the fight.

I actually agree with this. Ortiz in the UK would simply answer the question about whether Ortiz is as good as people say.

IMO, Joshua retires Ortiz.

[jas]

Yes, we watch boxing. And the best victory of Ortiz is...Jennings.

So what is special about Ortiz?

Did you even watch his fight Vs wilder?

You and other AJ UK fanboys are embarrassing and I'm English.

You guys didn't even watch his fight Vs wilder otherwise you wouldn't be saying stuff "he lost his only step-up fight"

Look at the manner of the loss...he was winning the fight Vs wilder.

Anyway, in terms of skill, Ortiz is a great counterpuncher . Look at the Jennings fight and the right hook he hurt wilder with. . Struggles to stop guys who go into survival mode but come at him like Jennings did and he most likely stop you.

Great power. Good handspeed. Weakness is foot speed. Stamina is questionable at his age and given his blood pressure issues. Great boxing iq. Look at the wilder fight. Wilder began anticipating Ortiz left hand and started to roll underneath and Ortiz adjusted in the very next sequence by firing the left to the chest and body

Do us a favour and start watching the fights

[Earl-Hickey]

Did you even watch his fight Vs wilder?

You and other AJ UK fanboys are embarrassing and I'm English.

You guys didn't even watch his fight Vs wilder otherwise you wouldn't be saying stuff "he lost his only step-up fight"

Look at the manner of the loss...he was winning the fight Vs wilder.

Anyway, in terms of skill, Ortiz is a great counterpuncher . Look at the Jennings fight and the right hook he hurt wilder with. . Struggles to stop guys who go into survival mode but come at him like Jennings did and he most likely stop you.

Great power. Good handspeed. Weakness is foot speed. Stamina is questionable at his age and given his blood pressure issues. Great boxing iq. Look at the wilder fight. Wilder began anticipating Ortiz left hand and started to roll underneath and Ortiz adjusted in the very next sequence by firing the left to the chest and body

Do us a favour and start watching the fights

He was winning the fight vs Wilder

so was Gerald Washington

so was Artur Szpilka

He wobbled Wilder, so did Eric Molina

Doing "pretty good until he got ko'd" isn't that impressive when you realize, almost everyone does.

Yeah he did marginally better than Washington did but that's all

he was also gassed out of his ******* at 6 rounds because he's a 40 year old man who isn't allowed his PED's anymore

Him vs Joshua would go about the same as Joshua vs Povetkin and personally i wouldn't go overboard giving AJ credit because Ortiz best days are even further behind him than when wilder fought him.

[Ray*]

Did you even watch his fight Vs wilder?

You and other AJ UK fanboys are embarrassing and I'm English.

You guys didn't even watch his fight Vs wilder otherwise you wouldn't be saying stuff "he lost his only step-up fight"

Look at the manner of the loss...he was winning the fight Vs wilder.

Anyway, in terms of skill, Ortiz is a great counterpuncher . Look at the Jennings fight and the right hook he hurt wilder with. . Struggles to stop guys who go into survival mode but come at him like Jennings did and he most likely stop you.

Great power. Good handspeed. Weakness is foot speed. Stamina is questionable at his age and given his blood pressure issues. Great boxing iq. Look at the wilder fight. Wilder began anticipating Ortiz left hand and started to roll underneath and Ortiz adjusted in the very next sequence by firing the left to the chest and body

Do us a favour and start watching the fights

If Ortiz is as great as you are making him out to be then he should have beaten Wilder easily. He was technically better than Wilder, he was outboxing Wilder who we can all agree is not as good technically, but Wilder still stopped him.

So yeah that fight was Ortiz biggest thing and he lost it. Unless we see him in other challenging fights the Wilder loss is the only thing we can all go by right now.

[JWHardin]

Yes, we watch boxing. And the best victory of Ortiz is...Jennings.

So what is special about Ortiz?

Yes, it was Jennings, and that was 4 years ago now. A common opponent with a better performance than a younger Wlad that was so impressive Eddie Hearn wanted to sign Ortiz. (To keep him away from AJ)

Hearn put Ortiz against guys that run or no-hopers, not allow him to be against a Whyte, Chisora, Takam, etc to prove he is a top guy. In the meantime AJ took fights against guys like Molina and Breazeale. Ortiz got tired of waiting and left for the Wilder title shot.

A crafty southpaw with great footwork and big power. He miscalculated, rushed too much when he had Wilder out on his feet.

Why won't these guys give him a chance? 4 yrs have passed since Jennings, and the ONLY one with balls enough to fight him was Wilder. Not Breazeale, not Whyte, not Takam, not Parker, not Chisora, not Povetkin, not AJ, not even Joyce or Usyk.

Hard to prove yourself when no one gives you the chance. Pretty soon it will be too late, if it isn't already. Smh.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Did you even watch his fight Vs wilder?

You and other AJ UK fanboys are embarrassing and I'm English.

You guys didn't even watch his fight Vs wilder otherwise you wouldn't be saying stuff "he lost his only step-up fight"

Look at the manner of the loss...he was winning the fight Vs wilder.

Anyway, in terms of skill, Ortiz is a great counterpuncher . Look at the Jennings fight and the right hook he hurt wilder with. . Struggles to stop guys who go into survival mode but come at him like Jennings did and he most likely stop you.

Great power. Good handspeed. Weakness is foot speed. Stamina is questionable at his age and given his blood pressure issues. Great boxing iq. Look at the wilder fight. Wilder began anticipating Ortiz left hand and started to roll underneath and Ortiz adjusted in the very next sequence by firing the left to the chest and body

Do us a favour and start watching the fights

Wilder had trouble with Washington. And Molina. And Szpilka. And Duhaupas.

What is your point? Wilder has "trouble" with every living body he faces.

You should stop pretending being smart. You are not really.

Is Duhaupas elite because Wilder struggled with him?

[Boxingfanatic75]

You're obviously don't read reports and just a fickle Wilder fan boy.

Ortiz was found using a banned masking agent. If he wanted to use a banned masking agent for blood pressure he needed to register its use , he chose not too .. he was correctly banned.

Yes its incredibly dubious We Be crooks didn't suspend him we agree there, shame on the WBC , Saunders nasal spray looks far less su****ious he could have argued the same thing but the WBO shut him down only the WBC lets this stuff fly.

Ortiz was sent a two fight deal to fight AJ, one fight opponent of his choice on the Pulev card and then a title shot he turned it down for the Wilder fight (his manager confirmed this in an interview). Joshua had to fight the IBF challenger first or be stripped.

I don't buy this Ortiz can't get a fight argument , Wilder used it years ago claiming Ortiz and Washington for instance would never fight him so he had to defend against bums, he tried to fight that Polish guy no one had ever heard of instead (fight fell through in the end).

Ortiz could easily get a top 50 opponent sure its hard to get a top 10 opponent when you have no money, fans and no one outside America and Cuba rates you but America has plenty of top 50 guys available just ask Miller. Why didn't he fight a top 50 guy straight away, Parker went straight in against Whyte .... why is he choosing to fight only twice.

I watched Ortiz I watched Hearn say he was the greatest and build him up then I watched him box and he looked old and tired and then gave up trying. Go watch those fights who would be scared of that.

Yes the boxing business is money however you never heard this garbage during Ali, Tyson, Holyfield era. Want to know why? Because they didn’t use it as a convienent excuse to not have to face an opponent. They fought everyone. This no reward garbage didn’t start until today’s pu$$y boy boxing

[P4Pdunny]

This would be a good fight, I'd rather see him face Miller, Ortiz this year if it's not going to be Wilder and Fury which it wont

[P4Pdunny]

Ortiz promos always read like something outta WWE, something John Cena would say lol