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  • #41
    Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
    That's not really what he said though - he said Kov left a part of himself in the ring those nights and will never be the same fighter, meaning he isn't what he once was. He didn't say he had re-invented himself and could potentially learn and be better than he was. Which happens to a lot of guys when they get KOd. Badou Jack comes to mind.

    The Kov vs Alvarez looked about as good as ever so any discussion that he lost anything from the Ward fights is basically null and void.
    Let me start by saying, you literally acknowledged part of what Ward said in your initial post. Ward said Kovalev would never be the same. Guess what! He wasn't. He relied solely on his boxing versus Alvarez. Isn't that different from what the Krusher does?

    As usual, people try and oversimplify things to make it work for whatever narrative they want to push. Kovalev was not "Krusher" against Alvarez. He fought a totally different fight than he usually fights. Why? The guy who walks you down and KO's you is gone. It can be argued that maybe Kovalev himself killed that guy with drinking (mentioned earlier) or it could be argued that Ward killed that guy buy standing up to the bully and KO'ng the bully.

    Whether or not this version of Kovalev is better than the first isn't the argument nor does it speak to what Ward said. He didn't say Kovalev wasn't good anymore. He said he'd never be the same. As a matter of fact, he said that this version of Kovalev beats most light heavies out there. He said, a part of him (the part that imposes his will on fighters) is gone. Now we get to watch the next few Kova fights on ESPN to see just how accurate of a statement that is.

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    • #42
      Dose it matter what Ward says? I was a Ward fan but I had him losing the first one to kovalev and controversial ending in the second one, mind you he was wining that one clean, ref should of let him finish clean not his fault.

      Kovalev was not the same as he was in the first fight with Alvarez he was better. Boxed brilliantly all the way to the final bell. had him 10-2 or 11-1.

      It's not that Alvarez din't try, he was shut down out boxed by a better and smarter (in shape) Kovalev. BTW his trainer MiGirt made a difference and was on point with the game plan and in the Conner, great job on his part earned his money and keeped Krusher focused 100%, maybe he finally found the right guy to train him.

      The fight to me was very similar to the first fight, except this fight I believe Kovalev was in better shape and had great game plan he stuck to.. He was winning the first fight easy before he tired and got caught and stopped.

      This time even more so. He looked relaxed and focused, world class performance. Three time champion! He put the division on notice. Want to see him unify next and go from there. Maybe to jail? or the hall of fame?
      Last edited by P4P Forever; 02-05-2019, 09:24 PM.

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      • #43
        I probably wouldn’t be the same either if i was robbed of the biggest fight of my career by decision. Then robbed again by a crooked ref who let the same opponent i already beat, hit me low repeatedly right in front of him, then call it a tko. Demoralization tends to do that to people.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Boxing1012 View Post
          Very good post. You get it, as do many others. People talk about talking chances and risks in boxing and try and get on someone like GGG - GGG has fought almost all of his fights as the 'away' fighter, Ward has never done that. Had he, he would have a few losses and a few DQs on his resume.


          LMAO

          feasting on mediocre mid-level talent, away from home..... is not equivalent to beating killers, at home

          levels > home " advantage "..... on the legacy scale bro

          you guys don't get it at all

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          • #45
            Anything is possible if you have judges in your pocket and having reff look the other way while you are punching your opponent in the balls - right coWard ?!

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            • #46
              wow, the crying in this thread is truly hilarious

              the OBVIOUS hate for Ward..... it wouldn't have anything to do with him punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G..... now, would it?

              you clowns are literally hating on Ward because your boy would not step up

              Kovalev and Ward should both be given credit for having the balls to fight each other twice

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              • #47
                We get it...you hate Golovkin. Repetitive but thanks, we get it.


                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                wow, the crying in this thread is truly hilarious

                the OBVIOUS hate for Ward..... it wouldn't have anything to do with him punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G..... now, would it?

                you clowns are literally hating on Ward because your boy would not step up

                Kovalev and Ward should both be given credit for having the balls to fight each other twice

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Since1976 View Post
                  Not sure who would win between this Krusher and Ward.
                  Ward is the TOMATO KAN Krusher's daddy. During the post fight interview, KANvolev called out everyone except for the man he should have called out - Andre Ward. That was no accident...

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                    We get it...you hate Golovkin. Repetitive but thanks, we get it.


                    but.....

                    the OBVIOUS hate for Ward in this thread.....

                    ..... it..... wouldn't have anything to do with Ward punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G.....

                    ..... would it ?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      but.....

                      the OBVIOUS hate for Ward in this thread.....

                      ..... it..... wouldn't have anything to do with Ward punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G.....

                      ..... would it ?

                      Your obsession with Golovkin comes across petty, hateful and cruel. You lose credibility, Let is go.

                      Keep it about the 175lb division.

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