Comments Thread For: Ward: Kovalev Not Same Fighter, But He'll Be Hard To Deal With

[aboutfkntime]

Your obsession with Golovkin comes across petty, hateful and cruel. You lose credibility, Let is go.

Keep it about the 175lb division.

I asked you a question

FACT: the hate for Ward in this thread..... is OBVIOUS

even someone like you can see it

that (irrational) hate..... it, wouldn't have anything to do with Ward punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G.....

..... would it ?

where do you honestly think that (irrational) hatred comes from?

that is a serious, reasonable, question..... one that should not be ignored simply because you decided to take the lame way out and pull the hate card

[Redd Foxx]

The fact that Kovalev can no longer krush and has had to take a much safer approach proves he's not the same fighter. That said, I'm really glad to see him adapting. If he continues to stay with Buddy and his mind holds up, I think he might be able to make it back to the top again.

[Boxing-1013]

Let me start by saying, you literally acknowledged part of what Ward said in your initial post. Ward said Kovalev would never be the same. Guess what! He wasn't. He relied solely on his boxing versus Alvarez. Isn't that different from what the Krusher does?

As usual, people try and oversimplify things to make it work for whatever narrative they want to push. Kovalev was not "Krusher" against Alvarez. He fought a totally different fight than he usually fights. Why? The guy who walks you down and KO's you is gone. It can be argued that maybe Kovalev himself killed that guy with drinking (mentioned earlier) or it could be argued that Ward killed that guy buy standing up to the bully and KO'ng the bully.

Whether or not this version of Kovalev is better than the first isn't the argument nor does it speak to what Ward said.

He didn't say Kovalev wasn't good anymore. He said he'd never be the same. As a matter of fact, he said that this version of Kovalev beats most light heavies out there. He said, a part of him (the part that imposes his will on fighters) is gone. Now we get to watch the next few Kova fights on ESPN to see just how accurate of a statement that is.

Ward explicitly says Kov is not as good what he once was, because of the fights with him. From Ward's own mouth - “He’s never gonna regain that,” Ward said. “When you go through what he went through in our two fights, when you quit like that, there’s a piece of you that’s always left back there. But he’s still good enough to deal with a lot of light heavyweights in the division.”

Against a punishing puncher like Beterbiev, however, Ward feels Kovalev’s TKO losses to him and Alvarez might impact his performance.

“It’s always in the back of his mind,” Ward said. “He’ll never fully get past that. I’m talking both [mentally and physically]. So again, there’s a piece of him that’s still back there in Las Vegas, from our second fight, still back there in Las Vegas, from our first fight, and still back there from his first fight with Alvarez. You don’t just [get] over that. But what he still has left is enough to deal with a lot of people in the division.”

Says it right there, plain as day. Also, anyone who has done a bit of research on Kov or has followed his career at all knows that he has an extensive and impressive amateur career, like most of the pro Eastern Euros do, and has always been able to box. I would argue that he always let his boxing do the talking before the robbery vs Ward in the first fight. After the robbery I think he went into headhunting mode because he let himself get too upset over it and wanted blood. The guy who boxed Alvarez was the same guy against Chilemba, Ward (1st fight) and Hopkins.

[Boxing-1013]

The fact that Kovalev can no longer krush and has had to take a much safer approach proves he's not the same fighter. That said, I'm really glad to see him adapting. If he continues to stay with Buddy and his mind holds up, I think he might be able to make it back to the top again.

Lol wow that's a reach. Some people on here just refuse to change their minds even when presented with new information. The Ward fights clearly took nothing physically out of him. Kov let the robbery in the 1st fight mess with his head too much, but the Kov that just boxed against Alvarez was the same guy, only reborn in a way, who boxed against Chilemba, Ward (1) and Hopkins. Almost same type of fight in all 3 of those other ones. Try watching those if you are new to boxing and haven't checked them out. Peace.

[Boxing-1013]

We get it...you hate Golovkin. Repetitive but thanks, we get it.

I bet if you went through his post history, every other one would be about GGG or on a GGG thread.

[Redd Foxx]

Lol wow that's a reach. Some people on here just refuse to change their minds even when presented with new information. The Ward fights clearly took nothing physically out of him. Kov let the robbery in the 1st fight mess with his head too much, but the Kov that just boxed against Alvarez was the same guy, only reborn in a way, who boxed against Chilemba, Ward (1) and Hopkins. Almost same type of fight in all 3 of those other ones. Try watching those if you are new to boxing and haven't checked them out. Peace.

You're one of these guys who is able to fool yourself into believing nonsense and you act shocked when others aren't as gullible.

Kovalev was absolutely fearless before. Now, he's VERY mindful of both his cardio and of getting hit. Both of which are good things. But, after losing to Ward twice he had to accept that his cardio is not on that level. That his body is soft. That his inside game isn't on that level.
After getting ko'd by Alvarez, he accepted that his chin isn't impervious.

It's so obvious that he and his trainer are compensating for these things. You can HEAR it in the way Buddy instructed him during the fight. Get educated in the science and this stuff will become petty obvious.

[TonyGe]

wow, the crying in this thread is truly hilarious

the OBVIOUS hate for Ward..... it wouldn't have anything to do with him punking Golovkin and calling him lil'G..... now, would it?

you clowns are literally hating on Ward because your boy would not step up

Kovalev and Ward should both be given credit for having the balls to fight each other twice

OK this is ridiculous. A lot of people don't like Ward because of his in ring tactics. Some of them don't care for Golovkin but they have enough common sense to see that Ward is a dirty fighter. You trying to flip this off by name calling and labeling is making you look petty.

[aboutfkntime]

OK this is ridiculous. A lot of people don't like Ward because of his in ring tactics. Some of them don't care for Golovkin but they have enough common sense to see that Ward is a dirty fighter. You trying to flip this off by name calling and labeling is making you look petty.

most intelligent adults have enough boxing knowledge and common-sense to admit that Ward was a great fighter

and then, there are you guys.....

you guys..... who are still crying and butthurt because Ward gave lil'G a shiny new nickname, and because you all KNOW that Ward would have whooped him bad LMAO

I delight in the fact that Ward and Canelo are exactly who you guys thought Golovkin would be

[TonyGe]

most intelligent adults have enough boxing knowledge and common-sense to admit that Ward was a great fighter

and then, there are you guys.....

you guys..... who are still crying and butthurt because Ward gave lil'G a shiny new nickname, and because you all KNOW that Ward would have whooped him bad LMAO

I delight in the fact that Ward and Canelo are exactly who you guys thought Golovkin would be

Again shooting off your mouth because you like the sound of your own voice. Speaking for myself I have stated in the past that Golovkin would lose to Ward because of Ward"s cheap shots. I also stated that in a fight with by the rules I would favor Ward to win. You're so in a rush to criticize Golovkin you don't stop and think. Why are these mindless Golovkin fans not calling Canelo a dirty fighter also. By your logic they should be all over him. The reason they don't is because Canelo is pretty much a clean fighter. This critisism of Ward has a factual basis..

[Ake-Dawg]

Lol wow that's a reach. Some people on here just refuse to change their minds even when presented with new information. The Ward fights clearly took nothing physically out of him. Kov let the robbery in the 1st fight mess with his head too much, but the Kov that just boxed against Alvarez was the same guy, only reborn in a way, who boxed against Chilemba, Ward (1) and Hopkins. Almost same type of fight in all 3 of those other ones. Try watching those if you are new to boxing and haven't checked them out. Peace.

Watched plenty of Kovalev fights. Was a fan. Pascal 1 and 2 were great examples of Krusher. Chilenba and Hopkins he tried to crush but they both held and clawed. Ward 1 he came in Krusher and left out wondering. By the end of Ward 2 Krusher is gone as Ward alluded to. I'm assuming you watched the entire interview.

Your information isn't new. It's not even detailed or nuanced. Here is your issue, you dislike Ward and favor kova. As such any analysis Ward provides is either wrong or biased.

So you acknowledge that Kova fought different. You acknowledge that the Kova from this weekend can box with the young crop of LHWs. That's what Ward said. He just thinks Kova won't go back to Krusher due to his fights with him and Alvarez.