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  • REDEEMER
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    #41
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Yes, AJ has a great right uppercut which he uses at close range. But he isn't somebody who can work from clinches, like, eg, Fury, Ward, and Dillian Whyte, sometimes.

    AJ's reaction when opponents get close enough to hold and clinch is to wrestle them off, then step back and give himself punching room.
    I would just say fighting in a clinch doesn't mean you can or can't fight on the inside. Mike Tyson wasn't very good at it , yet we all know he destroyed guys with inside fighting. Joshua isn't a Tyson inside fighter with being 6'6 but he does excell at that range to long range , look how he crushed Povetkin hit him with a jab and just battered him up close after a long one two connection.

    Joshua is also adapting at every fight, he's not so easy to clinch which why not even Klitschko was able to hold him, it's one thing not being able and letting. Next person who clinches him is probably in for a surprise.

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      #42
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      I would say anyone that can communicate with the likes of you suffers from mental illness also. SMH
      You're so ****ing ****** you can't even drum up a half decent joke.

      Originally posted by kafkod
      I'm thinking that maybe Marchegiano hasn't noticed the improvements AJ has made in most aspects of his game since he won his first world title.

      He has had only 22 pro fights, after a short amateur career, and is literally getting better with every fight.

      Another thing I wanted to mention .... AJ is much more like Foreman than Wilder is, in the way he shapes and generates power in his punches.

      I could easily find film of AJ letting big shots go which would look similar to that gif of Foreman.

      I did not make up posture fighting. If you don't know it or understand it look it up. You are completely missing the mark.

      If I started talking about a check hook and you didn't understand a check hook so you just went on speaking to hooks generally that'd be about where we are.

      Well kinda, imagine a world where you bring up check hook and a man tells you, you can't compare check hooks because the regular hooks thrown are different.

      I guess you're getting close I guess.

      Foreman, forming his punches. Sure buddy. What is he doing with his posture? Just a bit of random posing? Don't know? One thing is for damn sure, punch structure is not posture. Regardless of what those terms mean to you or your knowledge of boxing.

      There is no one on the planet who isn't trying to win some kind of argument or debate that would conflate posture with punch structure.


      behave in a way that is intended to impress and/or mislead.

      Rocky's small, Wilder's big, Foreman forms his punches differently....has something to do with posture? You know that it doesn't.

      I didn't acknowledge what you're talking about because it's got nothing to do with what I am talking about not because I don't understand or missed the most popular and talked about subjects in boxing.

      I mean really, after Josh beat Pov how many thread do you think I missed? Alright, how much time have you spent researching posture fighting? Well...**** man....why would you believe it is me who missed a damn thing?

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      • kafkod
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        #43
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        I would just say fighting in a clinch doesn't mean you can or can't fight on the inside. Mike Tyson wasn't very good at it , yet we all know he destroyed guys with inside fighting. Joshua isn't a Tyson inside fighter with being 6'6 but he does excell at that range to long range , look how he crushed Povetkin hit him with a jab and just battered him up close after a long one two connection.

        Joshua is also adapting at every fight, he's not so easy to clinch which why not even Klitschko was able to hold him, it's one thing not being able and letting. Next person who clinches him is probably in for a surprise.
        I liked what he did against Povetin at one point. Povetkin stepped in under a long punch from AJ and got to the range he needed to let some shots go, with his head almost on AJ's chest. AJ quickly put his left glove behind Povetkin's neck and used Sasha's own forward momentum to guide his head down onto a right uppercut. Then he shoved him off and hit him again.

        It wasn't a strictly legal move, but he did it so quickly and smoothly that I don't think the ref even noticed it.

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        • kafkod
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          #44
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          You're so ****ing ****** you can't even drum up a half decent joke.




          I did not make up posture fighting. If you don't know it or understand it look it up. You are completely missing the mark.

          If I started talking about a check hook and you didn't understand a check hook so you just went on speaking to hooks generally that'd be about where we are.

          Well kinda, imagine a world where you bring up check hook and a man tells you, you can't compare check hooks because the regular hooks thrown are different.

          I guess you're getting close I guess.

          Foreman, forming his punches. Sure buddy. What is he doing with his posture? Just a bit of random posing? Don't know? One thing is for damn sure, punch structure is not posture. Regardless of what those terms mean to you or your knowledge of boxing.

          There is no one on the planet who isn't trying to win some kind of argument or debate that would conflate posture with punch structure.


          behave in a way that is intended to impress and/or mislead.

          Rocky's small, Wilder's big, Foreman forms his punches differently....has something to do with posture? You know that it doesn't.

          I didn't acknowledge what you're talking about because it's got nothing to do with what I am talking about not because I don't understand or missed the most popular and talked about subjects in boxing.

          I mean really, after Josh beat Pov how many thread do you think I missed? Alright, how much time have you spent researching posture fighting? Well...**** man....why would you believe it is me who missed a damn thing?
          I've seen the term "posture" used in a boxing context, and it equates with having the correct stance for your body type and style of fighting.

          How I use the terms "stance" and "form" or "shape"...

          Stance is how a boxer shapes up when he's ready to fight .. ready to throw punches himself and guard against punches from his opponent.

          Form, or shape, is what happens to that stance when the action hots up, and he starts exchanging with his opponent.

          Keeping your form, or keeping your shape, means adapting your stance and posture dynamically while throwing and/or guarding punches, so that you get the benifits that good posture and the right stance is supposed to give you.

          It means, eg, not getting your feet crossed unless you do it deliberately, while using a shifting move.

          It means not over committing while throwing a punch, so you are in a position to defend if it misses, or throw another punch if it lands. Having your feet in the right place at all times is vital to this.

          It means being able to keep moving throwing punches continously in the way you practiced throwing them in the gym, without starting to wing, which lessons their power, or telegraph, which makes it easy for your opponent to defend.

          It means not getting ragged when you are tired.
          Last edited by kafkod; 02-07-2019, 10:06 AM.

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