True or False: Prime Roy Jones jr was on another level than Prime Floyd?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by SplitSecond
    Mayweather only looks great beating highly overmatched opponents too. Usually drained(corrales, canelo(green too)), blown up(marquez) and shot(mosley). Most live dogs give him a fight. Seriously, his record is a compilation of hasbeens or drained/blown up fighters. Both pacquiao and oscar(inactivity aside) were about 2 years removed from just being ko'd. He didnt beat Maidana in the first fight neither, and Maidana's accomplishments basically begin and end with Ortiz and Broner.

    He still probably has a better resume than Roy, definitely a better legacy, but, Roy was dominating. I dont think Floyd has ever dominated anyone as good as the Hopkins or Reggie Johnson(should have a win vs Toney) that roy fought.
    That's interesting so Canelo was green in 2013 but Hopkins in 1993 was great.

    Floyd fights blown up and faded fighters but Reggie Johnson at LHW in 1999 is great.

    Quite the double standard there.

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    • ELPacman
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      #32
      Roy was the flashier and definitely more explosive of the two. But yeah, ability wise, once Jones got older, his style did not age well with him. Jr. is defensive first and I can't see that as ever being a bad style no matter the age.

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        #33
        Up until he got KO'd by Tarver ........ Yes, no doubt about it.

        It's just that rapid and steep drop off that Roy went thru after that KO is what changes a lot of peoples perspective on his legacy, while Floyd maintained his excellence to the end.

        Prime?.... Roy was not only a stellar boxer but he was also a dangerous puncher that could take you out with one quick combo or punch, Mayweather never was that.

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        • spenz
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          #34
          There are many fighters way smarter and technically better than Roy Jones Jr. But none have better God given natural talent as Roy in his Prime.

          Roy does not only possess unfair advantage on his speed and quickness in his prime but he is also far more stronger pound for pound. It is unfortunate that Roy's career will always be intertwined with his downward spiral after his heavyweight campaign, but to most who truly remembers him in his prime--who can separate out of prime and prime Roy in their minds. This is the picture: A prime Roy Jones does not struggle on any type of fighters, elite or non-elite, he beats them with relative ease. If you're elite you'll be looking very ordinary after and if you're a bum you'll be disposed of so suddenly and in no time.

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          • RuleOfTheSpear
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            #35
            Prime Roy Jones Jr. was OP no doubt

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            • SplitSecond
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              #36
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              That's interesting so Canelo was green in 2013 but Hopkins in 1993 was great.

              Floyd fights blown up and faded fighters but Reggie Johnson at LHW in 1999 is great.

              Quite the double standard there.
              Not double standards. Going up in weight doesnt = blown up
              Reggie was already campaigning at lhw, roy didnt make him jump up to a weight out of his depth to beat on him.

              And why would I say hopkins is green compared to roy when he had more fights? You wanna play the amateur game, that worked well for lomachenko vs salido didnt it? No, just like I wouldnt mentioned canelo is green if floyd had fought him in a similar stage of his career, because it's a relative term.

              Is it weird that I predicted that you'd be the one responding to that post? Got all the ingredients for great hamza bait(not on purpose of course, but I know you like to talk about Toney).
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-01-2019, 07:56 PM.

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                #37
                No comparison. Prime roy's speed and power was untouchable.

                Looking back now, Floyd might be a little overrated lol.. I mean sure he's a master at defense and making you fight at his own pace, but this is the fight game, we don't want to see defense, we want to see a fight.

                We don't want to see a guy slipping punches and potshotting, we want to see a guy beating the shlt out of someone and leaving nothing on the table by the 12th round.

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                  #38
                  --- Roy fighter of the decade just like manny for the 00s.

                  TUE 50-0 the sissy fighter of their two decades.

                  SOD!

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                    #39
                    It is sad but it is Roys fault that people forget how good he was in his prime. He was unreal, he was just unreal. People say he fought bums and yes he did fight some weak contenders at 175 but he made Bhop, Toney, Hill, Ruiz, Reggie Johnson, Malinga look like bums. They didn't do better than the so called bums lol. Prime Roy from 1989 to 2003 is the ****ing goat. Watch his fights back, it's like he is playing a ****ing video game, it is ****ing unreal.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Not double standards. Going up in weight doesnt = blown up
                      Reggie was already campaigning at lhw, roy didnt make him jump up to a weight out of his depth to beat on him.

                      And why would I say hopkins is green compared to roy when he had more fights? You wanna play the amateur game, that worked well for lomachenko vs salido didnt it? No, just like I wouldnt mentioned canelo is green if floyd had fought him in a similar stage of his career, because it's a relative term.

                      Is it weird that I predicted that you'd be the one responding to that post? Got all the ingredients for great hamza bait(not on purpose of course, but I know you like to talk about Toney).
                      Johnson was campaigning at the weight but he was a blown up MW. Was never a LHW despite winning gold there much like Marquez at 147. But putting the weight aside he was DEFINITELY way past his best. So, how is that not a double standard? Floyd fights faded fighters yet you list Johnson who was faded himself in 99. How does that work?

                      Ah, so a guy being green is down to how many fights they've had? That's also interesting then because when Floyd fought Canelo Floyd had had 44 fights and Canelo had had 43 fights. So how do you explain that?

                      Hopkins was pretty green in 1993. But if Canelo was green in 2013 then Hopkins was extremely green in 93. Going by that standard.

                      They are both literally double standards by definition. If Canelo was green, Hopkins was green. Whatever way you justify Canelo being green can be carbon copied and used for Hopkins.

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