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  • boliodogs
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    #31
    Originally posted by mcdonalds
    Because ggg's fanbase consists of ex pacquiao fans who jumped off the train on may 2nd and mma fans who barely watch boxing
    Another idiotic statement by the resident idiot. Your hero refused to fight GGG at 154 when he was the champion at that weight and that's a fact. Insulting GGG's fans won't make that fact go away. Your hero curred out. He wanted no part of even a weight drained 14 pound GGG just as he wanted no part of a 154 pound Canelo. It would have been a huge fight that made Floyd lots of money but he valued his 0 more than the money. GGG would have crushed him.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Another idiotic statement by the resident idiot. Your hero refused to fight GGG at 154 when he was the champion at that weight and that's a fact. Insulting GGG's fans won't make that fact go away. Your hero curred out. He wanted no part of even a weight drained 14 pound GGG just as he wanted no part of a 154 pound Canelo. It would have been a huge fight that made Floyd lots of money but he valued his 0 more than the money. GGG would have crushed him.
      Bolio please don't over exaggerate how much money the fight would've made. GGG wouldn't have crushed anyone. He'd have probably passed out from exhaustion by round 10 and then you and all the other fans would've whined about him being drained.

      You got to stop this thing where you act like every fighter that is a bigger draw than GGG owes GGG something but he doesn't owe guys like Charlo who are lesser draws than him anything.

      Come on dude.

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      • R-Hand Southpaw
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        #33
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        ive always been perplexed about this...so help me out...help me understand

        Floyd has said a few times "everybody has limits..i know mine...160 is too high I wont fight there"

        so how come Floyd was called all kinds of names and called "scared" when he didn't want to take on a career 160 guy even if the fight would have been at 154?

        I know Floyd is in his own stratosphere...but how come the golovkin guy wouldn't do 154 for arguably the 2nd biggest name in the sport in canelo? or even cotto who is very well known and one of the bigger names at the time?

        so Floyd says no way to fighting 160 guys....but golovkin says hell fight him at 154....but wont fight canelo or cotto there...strange

        yet somehow when a featherfisted 168 guy challenged golovkin every excuse was made for golovkin to avoid that fight...despite the fact that golovkin talked about 168 incessantly and even put his name to paper to fight a guy there? "cant duck a guy not in your division".....but Floyd was constantly called "Scared" and a "cherrypicking poosy"..

        so weird....my best guess in fanboyism...anyone else have any other theories at this absurd display of double standard?
        Let's be honest and first admit that you dont care to even attempt to understand GGG or his fans. Quit lying to yourself.

        I'm a fan of GGG and some of his other fans do take it over board, but let's look at this objectively.

        When GGG said anyone from 154-168 he did it in an attempt to promote himself. It's no different than when boxers use other people's names to promote themselves.

        When he said that who actually wanted to fight GGG? Compared to other fighters how good was his promoters?

        GGG was stuck in Germany fighting nobodies because of his piss poor promotion. It's one thing to choose to fight bums and it's another to not have the opportunity.

        ****, even all you GGG haters claim his title defense record is fake, but the reality is that the super champ wanted none of GGG at the time.

        When broke into the US market and wanted to make a name for himself in what, 2013, he called out anyone 154-168. How many of those people but? None. Even ward was way too big at the time the fight could have happened as he was one, a LHW at the time, and two, he priced himself out, and three, GGG didnt need big names to make his name as he already had made one for himself.

        And jesus. Cotto paid GGG to step aside and not fight so he could instead fight canelo. Then Canelo dropped the WBC so he wouldn't have to fight GGG.

        Why couldnt GGG move to 154 for canelo? Um. Because GGG is the 160 champ? And just like we all know, Canelo is a true MW, who drains to SWW.

        Canelo even fought Cotto for the 160 belt at 155. Let me ask you how many fighters fight for the championship of a division at the weight limit of the next lowest division?

        And then he proceeded to fight at 164 RIGHT after.

        Look at all the 154lbers now. Why wont canelo go to 154 so they can fight for the 160 title? Huh?

        Your own problem is fanboyism when you dont even know half the facts yet regurgitate the same **** over and over.

        Floyd was called scared and a cherrypicker because that's what he is. Everyone wanted floyd and he made great business decisions. He had a great platform and good promotion.

        What did GGG have?

        It took GGG until 35 to get big money fights. The same cannot be said for Mayweather.

        GGGs choices have always been limited and hes never had the same benefit of doubt that Mayweather has that now Canelo has.

        When people say you need to win 8 clean rounds against canelo to win or knock him out they arent lying. The same thing applies to Floyd.

        It was never that way for GGG.

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        • Jubei
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          #34
          GGG would have put Floyd into a body bag, you know it (Thats why you create an unlimted amount of GGG threads, which shows your insecurity secret love for GGG), Floyd knew it (called GGG easy money and then went on to duck him even GGG offered to come down to the weight Floyd was holding a title), Ward knew it (listen to his GGG commentary and how he ducked GGG when HBO offered the fight) Canelo knew it (dropped his belt and waited GGG out until he was 35+), Froch knew it ("swerve GGG like the plague", rather retired than face GGG who offered to face Froch in his backyard in Nottingham), GGG in his prime, from 2009-2014 was invincible, unbeatable.

          GGG was the only fighter ever to have been listed as a favorite vs Mayweather according to oddsmakers/casinos at that time. He was also a 5:1 favorite over Canelo.

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          • Scary_canary
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            #35
            Love the hate today, a guy is about to sign a deal for millions, and your on the internet having a sook about, I gues that’s the difference between winners and losers..... can I point out, your not canelo, your not Floyd, why does his boxing career affect you so much?

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            • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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              #36
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              Duran also showed incredible courage on multiple occasions and after this fight. I guarantee Floyd, for example wouldn't dare step up to Hagler right in his prime. I doubt Floyd steps into the ring with a 154 Hearns or fights a huge middleweight like Barkley as he's pushing 40.

              Duran had a moment of madness but he made up for it and then some.
              You’re speaking hypotheticals now. Unless you have a time machine to prove what you’re saying those words mean absolutely nothing.

              I doubt Floyd steps into the ring with a 154 Hearns or fights a huge middleweight like Barkley as he's pushing 40

              Proves how smarter Floyd is than Duran if true. Shouldn’t be still trying to prove yourself in your 40s in a sport like boxing.

              Hagler was 30yrs old had been in close to 60 fights and only fought 4times after that I wouldn’t exactly call that his prime. The word prime is overused in boxing anyway.

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              • mcdonalds
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                #37
                Originally posted by Jubei
                GGG would have put Floyd into a body bag, you know it (Thats why you create an unlimted amount of GGG threads, which shows your insecurity secret love for GGG), Floyd knew it (called GGG easy money and then went on to duck him even GGG offered to come down to the weight Floyd was holding a title), Ward knew it (listen to his GGG commentary and how he ducked GGG when HBO offered the fight) Canelo knew it (dropped his belt and waited GGG out until he was 35+), Froch knew it ("swerve GGG like the plague", rather retired than face GGG who offered to face Froch in his backyard in Nottingham), GGG in his prime, from 2009-2014 was invincible, unbeatable.

                GGG was the only fighter ever to have been listed as a favorite vs Mayweather according to oddsmakers/casinos at that time. He was also a 5:1 favorite over Canelo.
                this is the most delusional guy on this site

                Now a Welterweight ducked a Middleweight LMAO.

                WHy do GGG fans want him to fight welterweights ? Oh and everyone knows GGG ducked ward

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                • mcdonalds
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  Another idiotic statement by the resident idiot. Your hero refused to fight GGG at 154 when he was the champion at that weight and that's a fact. Insulting GGG's fans won't make that fact go away. Your hero curred out. He wanted no part of even a weight drained 14 pound GGG just as he wanted no part of a 154 pound Canelo. It would have been a huge fight that made Floyd lots of money but he valued his 0 more than the money. GGG would have crushed him.
                  Our TBE only moves up to 154 to fight champions at that weightclass.

                  GGG has never fought at that weight and is fcking middleweight. I swear you geetards are pathetic for wanting him to fight welterweights.

                  LOL

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                  • Sledgeweather17
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    ive always been perplexed about this...so help me out...help me understand

                    Floyd has said a few times "everybody has limits..i know mine...160 is too high I wont fight there"

                    so how come Floyd was called all kinds of names and called "scared" when he didn't want to take on a career 160 guy even if the fight would have been at 154?

                    I know Floyd is in his own stratosphere...but how come the golovkin guy wouldn't do 154 for arguably the 2nd biggest name in the sport in canelo? or even cotto who is very well known and one of the bigger names at the time?

                    so Floyd says no way to fighting 160 guys....but golovkin says hell fight him at 154....but wont fight canelo or cotto there...strange

                    yet somehow when a featherfisted 168 guy challenged golovkin every excuse was made for golovkin to avoid that fight...despite the fact that golovkin talked about 168 incessantly and even put his name to paper to fight a guy there? "cant duck a guy not in your division".....but Floyd was constantly called "Scared" and a "cherrypicking poosy"..

                    so weird....my best guess in fanboyism...anyone else have any other theories at this absurd display of double standard?
                    Cotto and Canelo were MIDDLEWEIGHT champions, and GGG was MANDATORY challenger. He didn't have to do shieeet for Canelo and Cotto, they were OBLIGATED to fight him at the full middleweight limit.

                    This is coming from someone who thought GGG lost both Canelo fights and the Jacobs fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dariusz
                      Canelo lost to Mayweather as many aspiring future young stars lost to old experienced champs in their prime; the point is that Golovkin was also somehow in his prime and would have smashed Mayweather out. Floyd was very smart that time and still is very smart. He would be even smarter if he didn't say gibberish about him being better than Ali was.
                      He's better, but not greater.

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