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  • Boxing-1013
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Trufe
    He outlanded Ward
    He knocked Ward down
    He landed the harder cleaner punches
    He made Ward hold for dear life

    Classic Kovalev win vs an overrated guy looking to survive. Maybe 2nd worst decision in the last 20 years besides GGG Canelo . Another establishment corruption exposed.
    Well said man.


    I've seen worse recent robberies in smaller fights (Hooker-Perez earlier in the night of KovWard 1 was awful), but as far as big time fights I agree with those two standing out as particularly egregious.

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      #62
      Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
      Bitter Kovalev fans in here justifying the thrashing that Ward bestowed upon him, twice! Gotta love NSB!

      Anyone saying Ward 'thrashed' anything, besides his little TRex arms in survival mode, in the first fight is a grade A sub 80 IQ special, or a troll. Which are you lol?

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      • SugarRaRobinson
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        #63
        Any time we hear the “I trained too hard”
        excuse from Kovalev, we should all know that he’s automatically getting KOed.

        He said this BS between Ward 1&2

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        • SugarRaRobinson
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          #64
          Originally posted by Boxing1012
          Well said man. I think a lot of Ward 'fans' actually haven't seen him fight, and most of the others are unable to analyze things objectively.
          Maybe it’s u who can’t analyze things correctly as it pertains to Ward. Not sure your aware of this but boxing isn’t measured solely on punch count.


          So while u continue to attempt to marginalize Wards two victories against Kov, fact of the matter is Kovalev hasn’t been the same since the first Ward fight. But prior to that, he was indestructible, so what does that tell u ?

          What that should tell u is that Wards style of fighting is kinda “stealth” as he’s a feet-first throw back type of fighter. Meaning, that the damage and attrition that he puts on a fighter is a VERY HEAVY one, but is not all that visible to the untrained eye.

          So maybe the refs did get it right, and maybe they’re trained to see what u don’t, cause clearly Ward did enough to this seemingly indestructible force, to turn him into puddy the 2nd fight.

          Fighters were rarely ever the same after fighting Ward, hence his greatness !

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          • SugarRaRobinson
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            #65
            Here’s a link, which may help u get your boxing iQ up, especially as it pertains to Ward.

            https://********/rSUyE6p2EpM

            I must admit, that I also was slow to catch on to y Ward was so good, as I really couldn’t see it. Then I watched this clip and it really helped me to understand his master craftsmanship. Hopefully it will help u too.

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            • youbeight
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              #66
              Originally posted by markther
              Here we go again with the excuses from FOLDALEV (YAWN)....
              foldalev lmao thats a good one.

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              • MeanestNiceGuy
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                #67
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                This Saturday will be the end for Kovalev, I’m expecting a brutal beautiful knockout delivered by Alvarez within 6!
                Exactly! That's what everybody in this thread is trying to talk around. Smh

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                • harry-greb
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Boxing Trufe
                  He outlanded Ward
                  He knocked Ward down
                  He landed the harder cleaner punches
                  He made Ward hold for dear life

                  Classic Kovalev win vs an overrated guy looking to survive. Maybe 2nd worst decision in the last 20 years besides GGG Canelo . Another establishment corruption exposed.
                  He outlanded war in SIX rounds.
                  Yes he knocked ward down.
                  After the knockdown, it's debatable if kovalev landed the harder cleaner punches. Ward wasn't in trouble the rest of the fight.
                  Ward was not holding for dear life. Watch the fight objectively.
                  2nd worst decision in 20 years??? Ridiculous statement.

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                  • harry-greb
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Boxing Trufe
                    Fact is Kovalev outlanded Ward in both fights. Ward needed illegal tactics to survive the first fight, with a corrupt Robert Byrd allowing all that holding and hitting, Ward driving his head into Kovalev chest and trying to raise it up to butt him, but Kovalev holding his head down to prevent that coward cheat from butting him like against Bika and Kessler. Wards best offense is the butt.

                    2nd fight was low blows. Landing below the belt. Referee either was corrupt (another African American) or incompetence. Pauli mallinaggi said on record he never saw such a bull**** corrupt stoppage before.

                    It’s a joke. Call it what it was, an attempt by the boxing establishment to create another African American star which didn’t exist anymore above 154. Ward was the son of a white man who played the role very well aligning himself with Jay Z and Prince to more identify with the ****** culture.
                    Show me the fact where kovalev outlanded ward in more than 6 rounds.
                    Secondly, it's boxing. Rough housing goes on in every fight. Kovalev gave as good as he got.
                    With regards to the low blows, 1 or 2 might have strayed low but that right hand to the chin was well north of the mason Dixon line. Kovalev was in all kinds of trouble.
                    If you are gonna bring up paulie to help your argument I can do that too.
                    Paulie scored the first fight for ward!!!
                    I don't know why u are bringing race into it. It begs the question how can u objectively score the ward vs kovalev fights when u clearly dislike ward??

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                    • harry-greb
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Boxing1012
                      Typical DKSAB Englishman. You give the rest of your countrymen a bad name. Your lot thinks that when a defensive boxer doesn't get completely destroyed in a round it is a clear win for him.

                      Connect percentage is almost always a useless statistic. If I land 10/100 on you, but you land 1/1 on me, who should win the round? Rhetorical question btw, I have no interest in hearing anything you have to say about boxing.

                      The guy who lands more, and the harder, punches wins a fight. That's how it works. Ward outlanded him by 1 punch according to CompuBox in 3 and 5 btw, and iirc those were the only 2 somewhat close rounds in the first 6. It was closer to being 6-0 than 4-2. 5-1 Kov was clearly the right score after 6.

                      To give both to Ward when he was getting his ass stomped in the first half of the fight is very charitable. To give Ward 7 rounds in the fight is not possible. To give Ward 4 of the first 6 rounds you have to be a literal ******. You are not worth my or anyone else's time when it comes to boxing.
                      1. I'm not English.
                      2. Your connect percentage argument would be fine and dandy if ward didn't outland kovalev in 6 rounds.
                      3. How the *** was it closer to being 6-0 than 4-2???
                      Rd1 kovalev landed 7/34 (20%)
                      Ward landed 5/20 (25%)

                      Rd 3 kov landed 4/27 (15%)
                      Ward landed 5/22 (23%

                      Rd 4 kov landed 9/37 (24%)
                      Ward landed 7/25 (28%)

                      Rd 5 kov landed 7/33 (21%)
                      Ward landed 8/24 (33%)

                      Rd 6 kov landed 9/36 (25%)
                      Ward landed 8/25 (32%)
                      That's 5 "somewhat close" rounds wouldn't u say?
                      By those numbers kovalev is clearly 5-1 up!!!!!!!
                      Ward is certainly "getting his ass stomped".

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