CALZAGHE was a ducking fraud

[BattlingNelson]

Kessler was a lot more injured early on vs Ward.
Ward broke his orbital bone early on or midway in that fight. Kessler could not see. Ward should have been DQed, but no point deduction and hardly a warning IIRC.

He didn’t break Kessler’s orbital bone. It was some nerve that gave him double vision ultimate leading to him retiring from the s6 after having taken Froch’s zero.

[BattlingNelson]

To be fair to Ward...they haden't really done anything. Also, why would he rematch Froch when he beat him by a very very wide margin? Floyd in the latter stage of his career definitely cherry picked..but Ward is one of the few guys that you can't really call a Cherry Picker. He was in essence forced to move up and fight Kovalev by HBO. The guy fought a tournament, and fought tough competition for majority of his career. Him and Timothy Bradley are about the only guys of the last dying era to consistently be in tough fights. With the edge going to Bradley.


Ward was THE man at his division. The Obvious best fighter in his division, the only other fighters that can claim that today was Rigo, Inoue, Lomachenko Crawford at 140, and USYK. Every other division has questions.

Ward didn’t want to give Kessler a return in Denmark. I guess Ward knew that he wouldn’t be able to get away with murder in Denmark (or a neutral venue) the way he did in jOakland. That was the worst officiating in a world title fight in a very, very long time.

Ward was almost always very dirty and relied heavily on home field advantage. Take Wards career, put his fights on neutral turf and he would have 3 losses.

[daggum]

Ward didn’t want to give Kessler a return in Denmark. I guess Ward knew that he wouldn’t be able to get away with murder in Denmark (or a neutral venue) the way he did in jOakland. That was the worst officiating in a world title fight in a very, very long time.

Ward was almost always very dirty and relied heavily on home field advantage. Take Wards career, put his fights on neutral turf and he would have 3 losses.

we know how boxing works. the lead promoter chooses the judges and ward was never willing to give that up. thats why he turned down fights that to us seemed like sure things and great money. he didnt have the control over them like his other fights.

[daggum]

To be fair to Ward...they haden't really done anything. Also, why would he rematch Froch when he beat him by a very very wide margin? Floyd in the latter stage of his career definitely cherry picked..but Ward is one of the few guys that you can't really call a Cherry Picker. He was in essence forced to move up and fight Kovalev by HBO. The guy fought a tournament, and fought tough competition for majority of his career. Him and Timothy Bradley are about the only guys of the last dying era to consistently be in tough fights. With the edge going to Bradley.


Ward was THE man at his division. The Obvious best fighter in his division, the only other fighters that can claim that today was Rigo, Inoue, Lomachenko Crawford at 140, and USYK. Every other division has questions.

because froch was the biggest money fight and froch had regained the #1 position in the division. ward wasn't the lead promoter on that fight so of course he didn't accept it without being able to choose the officials like all his other fights.

every fighter cherry picks to some degree. ward turned down big fights against #1 bute and #1 froch while trying to fight guys like dmitri sartison. thats why he got kicked off hbo.

yes hbo wanted him to fight kovalev but roc nation was still lead promoter meaning they picked the officials and we saw what happened there. 1 robbery and 1 wtf moment. ward refused every single fight where he wouldnt be a-side because he knew he needed the officials. lets not pretend like he was some badass. he needed that advantage or he simply would not fight

[johnbook]

He didn’t break Kessler’s orbital bone. It was some nerve that gave him double vision ultimate leading to him retiring from the s6 after having taken Froch’s zero.

Well how do you explain this BScene article? https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...m-loss--110050

See near bottom where it states that "Kessler's very serious injury was similar to Osogo's". And it states re Osogo's injury: ''After seeing an eye specialist today it turns out that I [Osogo] have fractured my eye socket [bone] in two places.

Thank you.

[DreamFighter]

Well how do you explain this BScene article? https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...m-loss--110050

See near bottom where it states that "Kessler's very serious injury was similar to Osogo's". And it states re Osogo's injury: ''After seeing an eye specialist today it turns out that I [Osogo] have fractured my eye socket [bone] in two places.

Thank you.

the word similar" is used to show that it has some of the same features but its NOT the exact same, just "similar".

"having a resemblance in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical."

Furthermore its a promoter saying that, and they live a lie, so crap evidence in the first place.

Finally the orbital bone is one of many that make up the eye socket.

You disproved your own argument, cheers.

Nice one battlingnelson (thou u r still one ugly MF in yor avatr)

[BattlingNelson]

Well how do you explain this BScene article? https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...m-loss--110050

See near bottom where it states that "Kessler's very serious injury was similar to Osogo's". And it states re Osogo's injury: ''After seeing an eye specialist today it turns out that I [Osogo] have fractured my eye socket [bone] in two places.

Thank you.

The double vision was the same. The injury causing it was not. Kessler had a 'weakness of the superior oblique muscle of his left eye'.

[BattlingNelson]

we know how boxing works. the lead promoter chooses the judges and ward was never willing to give that up. thats why he turned down fights that to us seemed like sure things and great money. he didnt have the control over them like his other fights.

Very true. There's a reason for Ottke and fWard always fighting at home.