CALZAGHE was a ducking fraud

[DreamFighter]

Joe unified the Super Middleweight title, became the Lineal and Ring magazine champion, then move onto Light Heavy where he also won the Ring title. I don't really get why people complain that it took him a whole career to reach the absolute pinnacle. He proved without a doubt he was the best Super Middle of his era, then he moved up and beat a fellow ATG to become #1 at Light Heavy. You cannot turn your nose up at these achievements. Only a hater would not respect his achievements.

no he didnt. He didnt beat Ottke who was in his era, nor any champ before Lacy for some long 9 years so he categorically DIDNT do what you claim.

He tapped Kessler when the guy was about to go into hand surgery, and fled a return match.I am not detracting from his win by telling you he waited for the right time to face him.
Joe proved he was the best for a few months, and then fled the division. Thats what you can say.

He moved slow earlier in his career, but so do many fighters.

all the british SMWs who won a recognised world title did it younger than Joe, you are categorically and completely wrong again. Thats just Britain. Include the whole world and you will see joe was still one of the last to do it.

. He came close to retirement several times, but he persevered,.

perserverance is a good trait, joe had it in spades, I give you that.
See, I am fair. But you arent, as has been shown.

[Granath]

Calzaghe was and remains a fraud. He's an all-time nothing.

If he's the "Pride of Wales" then Wales hates itself. He fought hand-picked nobodies for virtually his entire career on his home turf. Until 42 of his first 44 fights were in the UK and the other two were against nobodies. Then he came to the US and barely beat a 43 year old Hopkins. Then there was the joke fight against a 40 year old RJJ. Both guys were far, far, far past their primes and Calzaghe couldn't KO either one of them. Calzaghe's entire career is measured around a good win against Mikkel Kessler but then we saw what Andre Ward - a 2-1 underdog - did to Kessler just two years later. Other than that he fought nobodies or has-beens on his home turf.

That's a great way to win the business of boxing. Take little risk, fight no-names in front of your home crowds and then fight two far-past-their-primes guys who were great just to get the names on your resume. He retired rich and healthy because he took few risks and fought virtually no one. That's smart but it doesn't make you great.

[BattlingNelson]

Calzaghe was and remains a fraud. He's an all-time nothing.

If he's the "Pride of Wales" then Wales hates itself. He fought hand-picked nobodies for virtually his entire career on his home turf. Until 42 of his first 44 fights were in the UK and the other two were against nobodies. Then he came to the US and barely beat a 43 year old Hopkins. Then there was the joke fight against a 40 year old RJJ. Both guys were far, far, far past their primes and Calzaghe couldn't KO either one of them. Calzaghe's entire career is measured around a good win against Mikkel Kessler but then we saw what Andre Ward - a 2-1 underdog - did to Kessler just two years later.

You mean putting on the biggest display of homecooking in modern times?

[johnbook]

just to complete the set, heres what calzaghe did

kessler
lacy
manfred tv boxer
myger mychergan whom nobody knows what he was since or before
rick thornberry (he may have been a boxer)

Calzaghe defeated an unbeaten Kessler with his fists.
Ward "defeated" Kessler with many allowed uncalled deliberate elbows and headbutts.

Similar to Horn's bogus win over Pac via similar illegal methods. Pac still won except on the judges' cards.


Just another way to allow the "selected" boxer to win. Getting refs to suffer temporary blindness.

[DreamFighter]

Calzaghe defeated an unbeaten Kessler with his fists.
Ward "defeated" Kessler with many allowed uncalled deliberate elbows and headbutts.

Similar to Horn's bogus win over Pac via similar illegal methods. Pac still won except on the judges' cards.


Just another way to allow the "selected" boxer to win. Getting refs to suffer temporary blindness.

na they both beat an able kessler but joes was injured.

but a win is a win, you gotta give joe credit for it even if he fled the rematch.

it is interesting to note that in wards first ever title fight, he eclipsed the best effort of joes entire career. that is the difference in these two men.

[johnbook]

na they both beat an able kessler but joes was injured.

but a win is a win, you gotta give joe credit for it even if he fled the rematch.

Kessler was a lot more injured early on vs Ward.
Ward broke his orbital bone early on or midway in that fight. Kessler could not see. Ward should have been DQed, but no point deduction and hardly a warning IIRC.

[Curt Henning]

He said Bute didn't deserve a shot and then goes on to make a fight against Dmitri Sartison lmao.

lucien bute LOLOL

heres what ward did

kessler
green
bika
abraham
froch

heres bute

miranda
jesse brinkley lol
brian magee lol
jean paul mendy lol
old glen johnson lol

ward said "beat froch and ill serve you"

and bute got his arse handed to him lol

5 loss bute is the boogeyman now to beat ward lol...unreal...ive heard it all now

[todisday]

I don't know much about Calzaghe's background but the man always showed up and never lost

[H-Tok]

Calzaghe and Marciano FRAUDS!!!

[DreamFighter]

Kessler was a lot more injured early on vs Ward.
Ward broke his orbital bone early on or midway in that fight. Kessler could not see. Ward should have been DQed, but no point deduction and hardly a warning IIRC.

thats cos ward broke it, not because kessler needed hand surgery going into the fight.

Ward did not wait for Ward to get injured before jumping out of hiding and challenging him.
Ward did not wait 9 years for a weak champion to come along, he went in and fought all of them as a young man straight up.

Once again, ward outdid, in his first ever title fight as a novice, calzaghes best effort of his entire career.

Credit though to joe managing wth his entire career to match what ward did in his first title fight, after which ward left calzaghe light years behind him.