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  • Scipio2009
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Arum knows that Crawford doesn't want those fights! Crawford wants champions, and at least former champions! He didn't want Collazo either! Arum has to make something happen, because he knows Crawford is pissed, having to watch Pacquiao and Mikey doing BIG things! I think Arum is fearful that Crawford might be the next star (Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, and Mikey) to leave for better opportunities!
    Crawford just tore up his old deal (no idea how much time was left on that deal, tbh) to sign a brand new deal with Top Rank, with an assumed $3m per fight guarantee, basically for the rest of his prime years in the sport (if the new deal has options for outs before Crawford turns 35, I'd be shocked); Crawford's not going anywhere anytime soon.

    Arum simply knows that the "talk to my promoter" Pacquiao rhetoric isn't going to work to market Crawford, and the boxing public won't stand for the nonsense that he has for Crawford in-house, killing Crawford's chance at stardom before even really getting anywhere.

    Crawford will end up like Tim Bradley, a good fighter who ended up having his possible legacy stunted due to chasing the Pacquiao fight (even though he was with a small promoter, Bradley was in position to unify the belts at 140lbs against Amir Khan for an okay payday) and simply securing the most guaranteed money he could, to fight whomever Bob Arum wanted to fight, without a care as to who he was fighting. Bradley right by his family, but could've achieved much more.

    After fighting Horn and Benevidez, Crawford fights Khan, and likely fights 'Mean Machine', Collazo, Bes*****, some random British/Ausie welterweight who gets positioned, possibly Shawn Porter (Porter is a good fighter, but isn't really a draw in his own right. You add the consolidation of the WBC/WBA/IBF belts behind one person, and Porter's ultra-aggressive style, I don't see Porter waiting the maybe 2 years for his shot at the new unified champion; I have doubts of him beating Ugas, and he doesn't beat Spence or Thurman), and then maybe a random like Manny Pacquiao (Pacquiao got the Broner payday, and will likely get at least one more payday, against Thurman or Spence/Mikey, to clear up any US debts and likely have made enough to settle most of the PI bill, assuming he actually did pay some US tax at the time. On his way out, if Arum can find another $20m, Pacquiao might grab another bag).

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    • sicko
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      #42
      I don't see it at least not yet BUT momentum is building for sure for that to be a Mega Showdown. Of course not to overlook Mikey Garcia or Khan by any means BUT I do think with more titles involved it can be HUGE. It should be a match up in which they're the only Champions left in the Division before doing it to make it more meaningful IMO. Hopefully Spence Jr (IF HE BEATS MIKEY) can get those unification bout on "His Side Of The Street" to speed things up. It will happen for sure as long as both keep winning!

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      • Sledgeweather17
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        #43
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg
        If the Spence ppv does at least 300k buys and crawfords is decent then he is right. Both are backed by legitimate network sports powerhouses who would likely both promote the fight on their respective networks. Spence has to get by mikey first, right mikey off of you want to, be has forgotten more about boxing than Spence has learned at this point.
        What I like about Spence is that nothing has been heard from him and he hasn't been seen since the fight was announced.

        This is a good sign, it means he is focussed and taking Garcia seriously.

        When a fighter disappears like that after a big fight has been announced it means he is working his ass off in the gym and focused solely on preparations for the fight.

        I think Garcia is gonna go up against the best version of Spence we seen thus far, and vice versa.

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        • KillaMane26
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          #44
          Incoming SPENCE ducking Crawford messages....

          Everyone should know by now they are not gonna waste a fight like that when Crawford can build up his name a lil bit more and Spence can unify his side of the street first.

          As much as we wanted Wilder vs AJ...Lets be honest at the time Wilder had no clout and had no names on his resume.

          Now look everyone knows Wilder from Fury fight and that fight gonna be huge now.

          I have no problem waiting as long as both fighters are still in their prime unlike Canelo vs GGG

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          • texasboi15
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            #45
            Originally posted by genrick
            So Arum is the only one making an effort.
            Very sad.
            Without question the realest post in this thread

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            • Bronx2245
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              #46
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Crawford just tore up his old deal (no idea how much time was left on that deal, tbh) to sign a brand new deal with Top Rank, with an assumed $3m per fight guarantee, basically for the rest of his prime years in the sport (if the new deal has options for outs before Crawford turns 35, I'd be shocked); Crawford's not going anywhere anytime soon.

              Arum simply knows that the "talk to my promoter" Pacquiao rhetoric isn't going to work to market Crawford, and the boxing public won't stand for the nonsense that he has for Crawford in-house, killing Crawford's chance at stardom before even really getting anywhere.

              Crawford will end up like Tim Bradley, a good fighter who ended up having his possible legacy stunted due to chasing the Pacquiao fight (even though he was with a small promoter, Bradley was in position to unify the belts at 140lbs against Amir Khan for an okay payday) and simply securing the most guaranteed money he could, to fight whomever Bob Arum wanted to fight, without a care as to who he was fighting. Bradley right by his family, but could've achieved much more.

              After fighting Horn and Benevidez, Crawford fights Khan, and likely fights 'Mean Machine', Collazo, Bes*****, some random British/Ausie welterweight who gets positioned, possibly Shawn Porter (Porter is a good fighter, but isn't really a draw in his own right. You add the consolidation of the WBC/WBA/IBF belts behind one person, and Porter's ultra-aggressive style, I don't see Porter waiting the maybe 2 years for his shot at the new unified champion; I have doubts of him beating Ugas, and he doesn't beat Spence or Thurman), and then maybe a random like Manny Pacquiao (Pacquiao got the Broner payday, and will likely get at least one more payday, against Thurman or Spence/Mikey, to clear up any US debts and likely have made enough to settle most of the PI bill, assuming he actually did pay some US tax at the time. On his way out, if Arum can find another $20m, Pacquiao might grab another bag).
              That's a lot bruh! I really hope Crawford doesn't end up like Bradley! That hurts just thinking about it! I wish Arum could make Pacquiao vs. Crawford next! Out of all the PBC fighters, Manny should be the easiest for Arum to make a deal with! Manny outsells Spence anyday! I too, have doubts that Porter beats Ugas! I think Ugas is going to take that strap! Do you think Hooker would move up for Crawford? He is 5'11'' and 29 years old!

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              • elfag
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                #47
                danny garcia sucks, i dont want to see his cornball ass anymore or crawford fighting him.

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                • JWHardin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by genrick
                  So Arum is the only one making an effort.
                  Very sad.
                  What effort? Talk about it?

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                  • Mister Wolf
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JWHardin
                    What effort? Talk about it?
                    Yup, while Spence is talking about fighting guys who have zero interest in fighting him. The Porter family already said the want PPV money, the kind of money they are willing to pay M.Garcia in a mismatch. You can be assured Thurman and Danny want the same thing. Spence is "on the other side of the street" within his own stable. Instead of engaging with the only champion who is asking for the fight he would rather sit around playing the role of bully to the champions that do not. Like he told Crawford to his face "why wouldn't I take the easy route".
                    Last edited by Mister Wolf; 01-26-2019, 06:02 PM.

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                    • Scipio2009
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      That's a lot bruh! I really hope Crawford doesn't end up like Bradley! That hurts just thinking about it! I wish Arum could make Pacquiao vs. Crawford next! Out of all the PBC fighters, Manny should be the easiest for Arum to make a deal with! Manny outsells Spence anyday! I too, have doubts that Porter beats Ugas! I think Ugas is going to take that strap! Do you think Hooker would move up for Crawford? He is 5'11'' and 29 years old!
                      Hooker is with RocNation/DAZN (not sure if he actually has a deal with Matchroom USA), and has a 140lb belt just as things are starting to scorch again.

                      The WBSS winner (I think it'll end up being Prograis, who would have the WBA/IBF and WBC Diamond, most akin to the WBA Super, 140lb belts around his waist) is pretty easy to get on DAZN, and Barios, Broner, Figueroa Jr, and a few others are nice fights on FOX/Showtime.

                      There's no reason for him to take the fight, tbh, unless Arum is offering $5m+ to him too

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