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  • Bmore18
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    #21
    Originally posted by hectari
    The only way this fight gets done is if crawford vs Khan gets more ppv buys than spence vs mikey garcia

    Because if spence does bigger numbers he will tell bud to step up his game, and claim buds numbers are too low. we already seen spence bark saying who is terence crawford and compared money.

    Crawfoed could do big numbers like 350 to 500k buys and hell still call out spence.

    Crawford is the best at welterweight.
    Only way Bud-Con gets higher sells is if they lower the price significantly. Spence/Garcia is the bigger fight. As much as they like to hype it up Spence-Crawford wouldnt sell huge, not yet at least

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    • KTFOKING
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      #22
      It absolutely is not big enough for Co-PPV promotion. Let's first see what kind of numbers the two do in the upcoming months. You aren't doing a Co-PPV unless we are talking million buys or something close to it. These two aren't close to getting to that number.

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      • Butch.McRae
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        #23
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        It absolutely is not big enough for Co-PPV promotion. Let's first see what kind of numbers the two do in the upcoming months. You aren't doing a Co-PPV unless we are talking million buys or something close to it. These two aren't close to getting to that number.
        He's just talking because he knows his company is at a crossroads. UFC has caused all sorts of concerns. He has to make something happen now or things will get weird. Loma has already started talking about Europe and for good reason. He's barely selling 10k tickets here and would pull 20k+ plus in the UK. Meanwhile Bid is in purgatory.

        Top Rank has work to do.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Bmore18
          Only way Bud-Con gets higher sells is if they lower the price significantly. Spence/Garcia is the bigger fight. As much as they like to hype it up Spence-Crawford wouldnt sell huge, not yet at least
          Lowering the price will lower revenue

          300k buys at $70 is more revenue than 600k buys at $30

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          • Bmore18
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            #25
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Lowering the price will lower revenue

            300k buys at $70 is more revenue than 600k buys at $30
            I was referring to # of buys which we all know everyone will be debating/comparing/arguing about after its over. Fact is Spence/PBC will be "A" side vs crawford as by that time the PBC winner will have 3 belts to one

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bmore18
              I was referring to # of buys which we all know everyone will be debating/comparing/arguing about after its over. Fact is Spence/PBC will be "A" side vs crawford as by that time the PBC winner will have 3 belts to one
              Revenue is what they'll look at. It has to be able to generate enough revenue. The fight is not big enough for a co-ppv.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                Revenue is what they'll look at. It has to be able to generate enough revenue. The fight is not big enough for a co-ppv.
                Not even close. Funny thing is Arum actually needs Spence to beat Garcia, then Manny for that fight to be realistic. Otherwise, I think Spence moves up in 2020 for a likely fight with Hurd (unless Charlo shocks).

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #28
                  'Arum stopping the fight doe, fight cant happen cause of arum..'

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                  • KTFOKING
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                    He's just talking because he knows his company is at a crossroads. UFC has caused all sorts of concerns. He has to make something happen now or things will get weird. Loma has already started talking about Europe and for good reason. He's barely selling 10k tickets here and would pull 20k+ plus in the UK. Meanwhile Bid is in purgatory.

                    Top Rank has work to do.
                    Lomachenko does good numbers in terms of attendance and viewership. I don't think that is it. Only reason they are talking Europe is because the upcoming fight with Crolla. Hearn though said if they win the bid he's putting the fight in NY.

                    Arum was talking Spence/Craword on Co-PPV even before UFC launched their first show on ESPN. I really don't know what they do with Crawford next. Possibly throw even more money to DSG? If you make say Spence/Pac next and Thurman/Porter, maybe TR can throw 5M at DSG for a Crawford showdown? Though Al will likely want DSG to get a title shot against the winner of the two fights I listed.

                    I don't know, but going to be interesting to see how this unfolds. I do think Spence will eventually force the Crawford fight one way or another before he moves up to 154.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #30
                      So Arum is the only one making an effort.
                      Very sad.

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