A reminder. Canelo Alvarez has always challenged himself throughout his career.

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  • Bjl12
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum
    is it really a challenge when you know you will win no matter what happens? also those arent the best examples. williams was completely shot and ortiz was a ww who was coming off a loss and was going to move up for the fight. not really that impressive. fighting guys like ggg, lara, jacobs is impressive even if the result is pre-determined.
    The only thing that was predetermined was this after all that smack talk:



    Mr. Middleweight Ca$hnelo

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    • daggum
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      #42
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
      My point is that it does not matter if you were K.Od brutally one tiene.
      it doesn't matter? why doesnt it matter? you do realize that williams and ortiz the 2 guys you are saying were great opponents for canelo were both ko'd recently when canelo tried to fight them. that matters. williams had lost 2 out of 3 and ortiz was 1-1-1 and each had been ko'd. they were not big risks as you say. they were what you call cherry picks.

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      • daggum
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bjl12
        Not to mention GGG passed up on the Catchweights - that's his own fault
        and when ward passes on the catchweights guess whose fault it is? ggg!

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        • daggum
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          #44
          Originally posted by Bjl12
          The only thing that was predetermined was this after all that smack talk:



          Mr. Middleweight Ca$hnelo
          well when you are a face first bum thats always going to be in the cards for your face

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            #45
            Originally posted by daggum
            and when ward passes on the catchweights guess whose fault it is? ggg!
            Ward fought the boogeymen - all of them. And he made no gripe about weight

            What Ward did not do was challenge Adonis Stevenson at 175 and Kovalev at 171 CW. That's what Borat did. Borat wanted all JMW (and even WW) to move up 1-2 weight classes for him and, despite calling Ward out at 168, wanted Ward to come down to him

            #BoratLogic

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bjl12
              Ward fought the boogeymen - all of them. And he made no gripe about weight

              What Ward did not do was challenge Adonis Stevenson at 175 and Kovalev at 171 CW. That's what Borat did. Borat wanted all JMW (and even WW) to move up 1-2 weight classes for him and, despite calling Ward out at 168, wanted Ward to come down to him

              #BoratLogic

              recap of your first laughable statement:

              ward fought all the boogeymen: nope he did not. ducked bute, stevenson, ggg, froch rematch

              never griped about weight: yes he did, he turned down the weight ggg wanted. you said this in your own post. you seem confused.


              he fought some of the boogeymen as long as they were willing to subject themselves to his tightly controlled environment where he could cheat and rob them. refused to join the super six unless every single fight was a home fight. refused to travel for career high pay days. REFUSED TO FIGHT UNLESS HE WAS A-SIDE. understand now?
              Last edited by daggum; 01-26-2019, 05:36 AM.

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              • icha
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                #47
                Originally posted by daggum
                well on boxrec it shows canelo vs some guy named liam smith and canelo vs amir khan(this fight is ok since khan is the greatest of all time) these fights made 5 times less money than the ggg fight who was the guy he was mandated to fight and refused. what do you call fighting lesser fighters for less money?
                you use money as to why canelo ducked ggg when he was his mando, but fighting ggg without the belt actually allowed canelo to win a lot more money than he would have done while ggg was his mando, money wise it was the right move by far...

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                  Problem with Canelo is he's either loses or fails to win decisively whenever he steps up.
                  Basically this, at least he has gotten in the ring with them.

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                  • stealthradon
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                    #49
                    How many active fighters under the age of 35 has he fought in the last 7 years?
                    Was it 3 or 5?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by stealthradon
                      How many active fighters under the age of 35 has he fought in the last 7 years?
                      Was it 3 or 5?



                      does Danny Jacobs count ?

                      it took Hypekin 12 years to make those kind of fights

                      it took Canelo 12 months

                      why are you so fkn dumb ?

                      everybody knows..... 1) silly pacfans should STFU about steroids..... 2) silly golov-fans should never criticize another fighters resume..... they are un-written laws

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