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  • BigStomps
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    #41
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    This isn't the article I was referring to but very similar..




    Here's the one I was referring to. I thought it was written by a judge but it was a journalist..

    https://nypost.com/1999/03/16/promot...that-feeds-em/
    Holy shet! Damn! I never knew boxing was this corrupt!
    But you think about it they are ALL in it together!
    Promoters, judges, referees, state commissions, and the alphabet soup organizations!
    Maybe they aren't all directly connected but at the same time they let things slide when they shouldn't!
    It's a shame!
    IDK why the US government hasn't gotten involved in this???
    They should!

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    • BigStomps
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      #42
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      true, I mean pac got put to sleep and came back to take part in the biggest grossing fight in boxing history. So a loss isn't the end all. Too many people jumped in the Floyd train by thinking a fighter has to have an 0. The other person that responded to you made valid sense though about promotors being the ones who pay the tabs for judges who work fights, so without being paid off, they can be influenced based in the perks of working a big fight. I didn't think of it like that but I'd have to imagine that it's much more beneficial for a judge who gets assigned to a Canelo fight than one who gets assigned to a Curtis Steven's fight or something like that.
      Aye you should read them articles Tony Ge posted on this thread!
      It's fuccing crazy how boxing really works!

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      • daggum
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        #43
        Originally posted by BigStomps
        Holy shet! Damn! I never knew boxing was this corrupt!
        But you think about it they are ALL in it together!
        Promoters, judges, referees, state commissions, and the alphabet soup organizations!
        Maybe they aren't all directly connected but at the same time they let things slide when they shouldn't!
        It's a shame!
        IDK why the US government hasn't gotten involved in this???
        They should!
        no the judges for the a-side just get overwhelmed with love for the a-side fighter every fight

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        • BigStomps
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          #44
          Originally posted by daggum
          no the judges for the a-side just get overwhelmed with love for the a-side fighter every fight
          Well that's bullshet! It shouldn't be that way!
          IDK why the fuccing government don't get involved the way they did with the MLB steroid scandal??
          This shet is worse if you ask me.....

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          • TonyGe
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            #45
            Originally posted by BigStomps
            Holy shet! Damn! I never knew boxing was this corrupt!
            But you think about it they are ALL in it together!
            Promoters, judges, referees, state commissions, and the alphabet soup organizations!
            Maybe they aren't all directly connected but at the same time they let things slide when they shouldn't!
            It's a shame!
            IDK why the US government hasn't gotten involved in this???
            They should!
            They did kind of. They passed the Ali Act but nobody enforces it.


            http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3032059


            Excerpt from the above link.

            In Nevada, however, each of the state's five commissioners is given six tickets in addition to his own seat for every fight card held in the state. These tickets are provided by the promoter. Two of them must be ringside. The other four tickets may be anywhere in the arena that the promoter chooses. The purported goal of this rule is to eliminate the embarrassment and abuse that have come in the past from commissioners asking promoters for free tickets.

            These tickets are no small matter. For the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather fight, six ringside tickets had a face value of $12,000 and were being resold on the Internet and elsewhere for multiples of that amount. Also, ringside tickets can be in the first row or the last. "Anywhere in the arena" can mean more ringside tickets or nose-bleed seats. That leaves a lot of room for favors.
            Last edited by TonyGe; 01-23-2019, 03:03 AM.

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            • BigStomps
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              #46
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              They did kind of. They passed the Ali Act but nobody enforces it.


              http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3032059


              Excerpt from the above link.

              In Nevada, however, each of the state's five commissioners is given six tickets in addition to his own seat for every fight card held in the state. These tickets are provided by the promoter. Two of them must be ringside. The other four tickets may be anywhere in the arena that the promoter chooses. The purported goal of this rule is to eliminate the embarrassment and abuse that have come in the past from commissioners asking promoters for free tickets.

              These tickets are no small matter. For the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather fight, six ringside tickets had a face value of $12,000 and were being resold on the Internet and elsewhere for multiples of that amount. Also, ringside tickets can be in the first row or the last. "Anywhere in the arena" can mean more ringside tickets or nose-bleed seats. That leaves a lot of room for favors.
              Yeah that's fuccing crazy! No wonder boxing is the way it is!
              That definitely explains why Canelo gets so many questionable decisions.... I'm a huge Canelo fan and while it's no fault of his own I can understand now why so many people think the referee's are bought in his fights... Cause they basically are!
              He's always gonna be the A side and the money guy in boxing so more often than not he'll get the close rounds and decisions...
              That's not right though! I'm a boxing fan first and foremost and I want the right guy to win even if it isn't Canelo.
              Sad part is I don't think things will change on how boxing operates.
              At least not anytime soon...

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              • Jab jab boom
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                #47
                Originally posted by BigStomps
                Aye you should read them articles Tony Ge posted on this thread!
                It's fuccing crazy how boxing really works!
                damn, just read it. That's wild. This line stuck out "Score the fight the “right” way or you may not get that next big assignment. No easy paycheck, no paid vacation, no comp hotel room, no per diem, no adrenaline rush from being ringside at a big fight." son it's almost like legal pay offs to an extent.

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                • BigStomps
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  damn, just read it. That's wild. This line stuck out "Score the fight the “right” way or you may not get that next big assignment. No easy paycheck, no paid vacation, no comp hotel room, no per diem, no adrenaline rush from being ringside at a big fight." son it's almost like legal pay offs to an extent.
                  Yeah that's bullshet! The whole process needs to change!
                  No reason why any judge or referee should be aligned with any alphabet soup organization!
                  And the promoter shouldn't have to pay the referee or judges...
                  The promoter should pay the commission a huge fee and out of that fee the commission should hire and pay the judges and referee...

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                  • Boxingfanatic75
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                    It's also Much easier to pay off judges in Vegas than anywhere else.

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                    • whoseyourdaddy
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      I doubt they get paid off but the lead promoter pays all their expenses. Usually in a big fight its all first class. So if you want to work and get the perks and the promoter likes you then one hand washes the other. The promoter can't pick the judges but he can object to one or several. The commissions usually give in and pick someone else that's agreeable. So yeah a judge can bought off without receiving cash.
                      You mean the same way GGG did in his 2nd fight with Canelo, he hand picked all three judges, the ref and did not allowed the Mexican anthem, because Mexicans would go crazy.
                      Oh and did not allowed Canelo to use the gloves he wanted to use.

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