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  • BigStomps
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    #31
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    I doubt they get paid off but the lead promoter pays all their expenses. Usually in a big fight its all first class. So if you want to work and get the perks and the promoter likes you then one hand washes the other. The promoter can't pick the judges but he can object to one or several. The commissions usually give in and pick someone else that's agreeable. So yeah a judge can bought off without receiving cash.
    Damn I didn't know any of that. I guess scoring for the house fighter is a way to receive job security from the promoter. That makes sense then

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    • TonyGe
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      #32
      Originally posted by BigStomps
      Damn I didn't know any of that. I guess scoring for the house fighter is a way to receive job security from the promoter. That makes sense then
      I got most of that from an article written by a disgruntled judge. So if it's accurate and I suspect it is, there are a lot of ways to manipulate the system. If I can find a link I will post it and people can make up their own minds but it looks shady to me.

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      • Jab jab boom
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        #33
        Originally posted by BigStomps
        I guess you make valid points and I can't dispute anything you say.
        Let's hope the Canelo-Jacobs fight doesn't end in controversy.
        I want a clear winner, even if it's Jacobs.
        A loss to Jacob's isn't gonna end Canelo's career and vice versa.
        Too many people think a loss is the end to a Fighter's career but that's far from the truth!
        Canelo's loss to Mayweather didn't effect his career and neither will a loss to Jacob's.
        true, I mean pac got put to sleep and came back to take part in the biggest grossing fight in boxing history. So a loss isn't the end all. Too many people jumped in the Floyd train by thinking a fighter has to have an 0. The other person that responded to you made valid sense though about promotors being the ones who pay the tabs for judges who work fights, so without being paid off, they can be influenced based in the perks of working a big fight. I didn't think of it like that but I'd have to imagine that it's much more beneficial for a judge who gets assigned to a Canelo fight than one who gets assigned to a Curtis Steven's fight or something like that.

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        • BigStomps
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          #34
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          I got most of that from an article written by a disgruntled judge. So if it's accurate and I suspect it is, there are a lot of ways to manipulate the system. If I can find a link I will post it and people can make up their own minds but it looks shady to me.
          Alright cool. Yes it's shady and if that's how it's done then things need to change!
          Cause if Oscar is paying for the judges services then all he has to do is keep spoiling this Judges with first class services and of course the judges would wanna be in Oscar's good side so they'll side with Oscar's fighter so that they'll get picked again next fight.
          Things definitely need to change if that's the process!

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #35
            Originally posted by Robi13
            I am wondering how well the DAZN app will stream a big fight such as this. I know the canelo vs Rocky fight turned out fine but this is a whole other animal
            I don't know man. I'd say I'm a hardcore fan but I don't really give a shit about this fight. Jacobs reminds me how weak boxing in general is. It's pathetic.

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            • BigStomps
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              true, I mean pac got put to sleep and came back to take part in the biggest grossing fight in boxing history. So a loss isn't the end all. Too many people jumped in the Floyd train by thinking a fighter has to have an 0. The other person that responded to you made valid sense though about promotors being the ones who pay the tabs for judges who work fights, so without being paid off, they can be influenced based in the perks of working a big fight. I didn't think of it like that but I'd have to imagine that it's much more beneficial for a judge who gets assigned to a Canelo fight than one who gets assigned to a Curtis Steven's fight or something like that.
              I'll definitely agree with you on that!
              Mayweather has alot of fans thinking you need to be undefeated in order to be considered great and that's not true at all!
              But Yes that other guy makes great arguments. If that's how the process works then I can see why Judges would want Canelo to win...
              I'm a boxing fan first and foremost and I want a judge to score the fight for the fighter they feel actually won the fight, not by which fighter benefits them the most thru certain perks and rewards.
              I just want a great honest fight between Canelo and Jacobs and let the best man win!

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              • TonyGe
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                #37
                Originally posted by BigStomps
                I'll definitely agree with you on that!
                Mayweather has alot of fans thinking you need to be undefeated in order to be considered great and that's not true at all!
                But Yes that other guy makes great arguments. If that's how the process works then I can see why Judges would want Canelo to win...
                I'm a boxing fan first and foremost and I want a judge to score the fight for the fighter they feel actually won the fight, not by which fighter benefits them the most thru certain perks and rewards.
                I just want a great honest fight between Canelo and Jacobs and let the best man win!
                In my mind Jacobs is the best man maybe not the best boxer or maybe both. This should be a good fight.

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                • TonyGe
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BigStomps
                  Damn I didn't know any of that. I guess scoring for the house fighter is a way to receive job security from the promoter. That makes sense then
                  This isn't the article I was referring to but very similar..




                  Here's the one I was referring to. I thought it was written by a judge but it was a journalist..

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                  • BigStomps
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TonyGe
                    In my mind Jacobs is the best man maybe not the best boxer or maybe both. This should be a good fight.
                    I like Jacobs and I'm a fan of his but I'm a bigger fan of Canelo.
                    I'm rooting for Canelo but I hope it's a great, fair fight and let the best man win!

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                    • BigStomps
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      This isn't the article I was referring to but very similar..




                      Here's the one I was referring to. I thought it was written by a judge but it was a journalist..

                      https://nypost.com/1999/03/16/promot...that-feeds-em/

                      Good looking out man! I'll check them out and I'll get back to you on it..

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