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  • #61
    Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
    Eddie Hearn is his promoter they can reach out to millers manager or miller himself
    Link please, and while you're at it, post your source that said Fury won't fight until at least July too!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      So a Cuban refugee will leave MatchRoom, knowing he might make $10M, to go to PBC for 800K? Do you know any Cubans? Seriously. Have you had any Cubans at your house for a meal, or a party? That makes absolutely no sense! What does, is he realizes that because he doesn't have a fan base outside of Miami, he will do WHATEVER to get a title fight, especially since he's already older, and he wants to take care of his family, especially his daughter born with birth defects! So he says to himself, "Joshua es un pato, yo quiero Wilder!" Maybe that's just the Cubans I know?
      I have had a lap dance by a Cuban and smoked a Cuban cigar if that qualifies me to talk about a 50 year old 1984 Olympian .

      Ortiz as you explained had a sick daughter and wanted to return home. He could not be asked to wait for AJ to finish his mandatory then fight him so he threw the dice and thought” let’s beat up Wilder take his belt and when I face AJ I can make 12-13 million. A good idea if he had beat Wilder. Rumours have it he may be returning to Hearn

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Link please, and while you're at it, post your source that said Fury won't fight until at least July too!
        This is just my opinion. You mentioned or whoever that Miller May have a shot at Wilder. Now I know they didn’t reach out to Hearn for one he is just a promoter and not his manager and secondly thinking logically it would have to be the manager or Miller himself. What link do you need ?

        As for Fury fighting in July it was his trainer that suggested it on IFL TV. Although he did say he has not talked properly with Tyson yet although for him he wants to see AJ vs Wilder fight and Fury fights the winner

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        • #64
          Originally posted by alexjust View Post
          Here is the thing: we all have stories to tell. Personally I do not believe Joshua is ducking anyone. For us boxing is entertainment, for boxers it is both: sport and business. AJ achieved too much in such short span for us to accuse him of cowardice. Cowards don't achieve what he achieved. We are also so hung up on this number of "$50m", but the reality of business is that the devil is in the detail. Making that kind of offer and refusing to discuss the details unless AJ "accepts" this offer is not just ludicrous from a business standpoint, it would be foolish for AJ to comply with this petty blackmail. And all of Hearn's further attempts to set up a dialogue led to nothing. Why? You think Hearn doesn't want a cut of $50m? Or AJ doesn't want to set up his future generations for their lifetimes? That was an effective and cunning marketing move by Wilder team. Wilder wants no part of AJ and if you look at the level of opponents both faced to date its pretty damned clear who the coward really is, if we are to pick one. And its not AJ.

          If anything, I'd advise AJ not to step up to Fury or Wilder until 2020 because I think he would benefit from more experience and will come into his prime then, but I see no credible facts to say that AJ is ducking either of them now. Superficially it looks like Wilder took over the narrative, but if you dig deeper its so far from reality.

          Wilder taking the Fury rematch will be the biggest mistake of Wilder's professional career. He will most likely lose on scorecards this time (no gift draw) and will miss out on the biggest payday of his career with the greater chance of beating AJ. Really, really ****** decision to go via Fury, a decision driven by pride rather then calculation. "I told you so" is coming
          This is golden. You are saying that AJ is not ducking Fury and Wilder than in the same breath said AJ should not fight either of them untill 2020 so he can keep building his brand and capitalize off his name while he also grows more into his prime. Isnt that ducking? Not trying to come at you bro I'm asking seriously. Is that not what ducking is? Taking easier fights for high pay while avoiding the tougher competition until you either improve or they decline in skills.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by umop-ap!sdn View Post
            This is golden. You are saying that AJ is not ducking Fury and Wilder than in the same breath said AJ should not fight either of them untill 2020 so he can keep building his brand and capitalize off his name while he also grows more into his prime. Isnt that ducking? Not trying to come at you bro I'm asking seriously. Is that not what ducking is? Taking easier fights for high pay while avoiding the tougher competition until you either improve or they decline in skills.
            Where is the inconsistency? It is my opinion that AJ should wait fighting Wilder. But AJ, by calling out Wilder and booking the venue, obviously is of opinion that he is ready. So?..Where is ducking?

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            • #66
              A few things:

              first lets talk Whyte and Big Baby. Big Baby is not ******. Whyte is a high risk, low reward scenario. Sure Miller is a 5h1t talker, but he has no reason to pursue a guy who occupies a similar demographic. What would we bill the fight as? Which kick boxer is supreme? Both guys are good and doing the jefferson tango: "Movin' on up!" But both guys are the same fascimile, scrappy, tough, 5hit talkers... better fighters than they get credit for being...

              Joshua has to come out at this point. I don't know what his management team thinks they can do, but fans are starting to talk and assert themselves. its really very simple: Fury and Wilder have crossed swords. Joshua is odd man out.

              heres the thing: people can ***** and moan, call Joshua a blooming butterfly ready to explode in 2020, a coward, whatever... he has to act according to the present projections for the division and there are guys breathing down his neck, guys like Miller, Whyte, Ortiz, Ruiz, etc... If Joshua fails to act he will have problems...he will run into guys with momentum on the way up, and skills who don't fear him, and he will have to run into Wilder down the line....There is no way Hearn will let AJ fight Fury. Lol but if he does avoid a fight with Wilder and Fury beats Wilder... BOOM!!!!! Fury would embarass AJ under many scenarios and Tommy Twinkle toes Hearns knows this and fears this more even than a Wilder KO. This is because most boxing pundits think Wilder would lose to AJ.

              Things are not looking so good for AJ at the moment. There does appear to be some trepidation from Tommy twinkle toes. Now, sometimes appearances are deceiving, and sometimes not, but AJ has to fight someone eventually.
              Last edited by billeau2; 01-16-2019, 08:58 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Lewis is one guy. He is the best HW to represent the UK ever, but I guess that's irrelevant! It would be cool if it's just him, but it's not! I love Bill Cosby, and have since I was a child! One woman...f**k that b**ch! 20 women...DAMN BILL, you're an animal! It still hurts, and I know what you're going through, but it is what it is!
                Lay off the white powder man..

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                • #68
                  I like Jarrell Miller but mark my words when I say this, he's been purposely kept away from punchers and it's for a very good reason as anyone who follows sparring stories will know.

                  If/when he fights Joshua expect a very early finish

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                    A few things:

                    first lets talk Whyte and Big Baby. Big Baby is not ******. Whyte is a high risk, low reward scenario. Sure Miller is a 5h1t talker, but he has no reason to pursue a guy who occupies a similar demographic. What would we bill the fight as? Which kick boxer is supreme? Both guys are good and doing the jefferson tango: "Movin' on up!" But both guys are the same fascimile, scrappy, tough, 5hit talkers... better fighters than they get credit for being...

                    Joshua has to come out at this point. I don't know what his management team thinks they can do, but fans are starting to talk and assert themselves. its really very simple: Fury and Wilder have crossed swords. Joshua is odd man out.

                    heres the thing: people can ***** and moan, call Joshua a blooming butterfly ready to explode in 2020, a coward, whatever... he has to act according to the present projections for the division and there are guys breathing down his neck, guys like Miller, Whyte, Ortiz, Ruiz, etc... If Joshua fails to act he will have problems...he will run into guys with momentum on the way up, and skills who don't fear him, and he will have to run into Wilder down the line....There is no way Hearn will let AJ fight Fury. Lol but if he does avoid a fight with Wilder and Fury beats Wilder... BOOM!!!!! Fury would embarass AJ under many scenarios and Tommy Twinkle toes Hearns knows this and fears this more even than a Wilder KO. This is because most boxing pundits think Wilder would lose to AJ.

                    Things are not looking so good for AJ at the moment. There does appear to be some trepidation from Tommy twinkle toes. Now, sometimes appearances are deceiving, and sometimes not, but AJ has to fight someone eventually.
                    I don't know what reality you are in but you are saying "Joshua needs to fight somebody" then you mention "up and comers" Whyte, who he already beat, Ruiz who lost to Parker who he beat (and was last seen on the side of a milk carton) and Ortiz (that 41 year old up and comer)

                    Like whaaaaaaaat

                    Joshua last few opponents

                    Whyte (who people said he would duck)
                    Martin (world champ)
                    Brezeale (unbeaten)
                    Molina (Haymon enforced as part of deal for Martin fight)
                    Klitschko #2 active in the division who Wilder ducked
                    Takam (supposed to be mandatory pulev who ducked out)
                    Parker (unification)
                    Povetkin (mandatory)

                    Meanwhile Wilder has a bunch of bums then Ortiz and fury

                    Yes Wilder had with good fights finally after a DECADE as a pro an 40 bums.

                    Like, you people need to get real, Wilder was 8-0 down vs AJ going into the Ortiz fight, now he's "only" 8-2 down

                    He's still WAAAAAY behind

                    Fury is a special case and I give him a pass for his inactivity, but Wilder? He's still got a LOT of catching up to do.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by umop-ap!sdn View Post
                      This is golden. You are saying that AJ is not ducking Fury and Wilder than in the same breath said AJ should not fight either of them untill 2020 so he can keep building his brand and capitalize off his name while he also grows more into his prime. Isnt that ducking? Not trying to come at you bro I'm asking seriously. Is that not what ducking is? Taking easier fights for high pay while avoiding the tougher competition until you either improve or they decline in skills.
                      IF that is what AJ is doing then it's the same thing Wilder did when he said he "wasn't ready" to fight klitschko as wbc champ and like 34-0

                      So IF joshua is a ducker so is Wilder

                      You can't pick and choose, it's either neither is a ducker or both are, so which is it?

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