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  • Laligalaliga
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    #121
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Lomachenko lost in his 2nd fight! So what? Both Loma and Ortiz were ready for prime time from the day they got here! Ortiz didn't need to wait that long for Chisora, Whyte, and Joshua!
    What exactly are you talking about?

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #122
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      Hearn is doing a great job with him? We'll see if he gets a title shot...one day! I think Miller would be much better off in the PBC! Same could be said for Danny Jacobs too! They both should be the face of the Barclay's Center in Brooklyn!
      Dnt worry you will understand better soon what hearn is doing with miller and Jacob's.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Noelanthony
        What!! Isn’t Whyte already eligible for a title shot? Where is the harm fighting Chisora and earning a few million. It’s not a mammoth task and if he didn’t beat Chisora then maybe he doesn’t derserve a title shot.

        Some fighters are very happy being the main event of a PPV
        I wanted to come back to this post and reflect on the current position. I am happy that Dillian is considering a new promotor I think it is certainly the best career move as under matchroom the #1 is Joshua and what Aj wants Aj gets.

        It’s pretty clear that the only loyalty in this business from Eddies perspective is to the money not building relationships. Aj is the cash cow and king for matchroom and Eddie Hearn is his obsequious servant a sycophant who should have been subjected to a level of corporal punishment when he demonstrated insolence growing up because now he would have at a minimum some basic manners.

        It shouldn’t come as a suprise then that when push comes to shove Eddie would always choose Aj interests or desires well above doing right by Whyte and that is becoming increasingly clear particularly with his visit to the WBO HQ.

        It’s becoming evident that Aj may or may not favour a match with Dillian Whyte and perhaps would offer him a bout as a courtesy voluntary defence rather than a forced mandatory.

        Barry Hearn is the driving force behind Eddie Hearns visit to WBO HQ. The objective was to determine when and with whom will the mandatory defence of the WBO for Aj get called and whether that can be influenced by Matchroom. A social visit that could only have come about from Barry’s instructions, who himself comes from an era where there was an emphasis on personal relationships. Eddie is from email and phone generation it could never occur to him the value of a face to face - Queue Eddie on a plane to see Shelly Finkel ... Queue Eddie insta snaps of private jets and quoting business ... highly predictable, unintelligible an silk purse from a pigs ear.

        As I ruffle these feathers the outcome of a lavish lunch and exchange of gifts I think was simple that Usyk could potentially replace Whyte as a mandatory if he moves up in weight based on WBO rules...it’s possible

        The east end wheeler dealer now as some leverage over Whyte which he is more than happy to exploit considering that he mentioned the current offer to Whyte is direct from Joshua and God forbid that Hearn does anything other than what he is instructed to do by AJ. There’s a name for anyone that holds that position quoted heavily in many rap lyrics - would it be too harsh to refer to track 13 Dr Dre Chronic 2001? Please excuse my thug poetry ...

        That leaves Whyte accepting an offer that’s better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick or waiting years for a potential fight for a title.

        The rhetoric from Hearn is telling it’s now and these opportunities don’t come along very often...his intention is to use the Usyk card to force Whytes hand else leave him in the wilderness which could be 3 years considering that if Usyk can be called into the mandatory defence subject to him having the appetite to take on Joshua as his first heavyweight opponent this year then AJ is free for a while for a unification with wilder fury 2020 and perhaps 2021 for rematches leaving the earliest mandatory defence around Dec 2021 or April 2022.

        In another twist to this case the close relationship with Klitschko and matchroom is another card that Hearn can try to use to remove Whyte from the equation altogether. Try and get Klitschko vs Whyte and the winner comes to AJ.

        The point is for Dillian he is not going to get an favours from matchroom and the roadblocks are being put into place. Dillian has to choose between Aj now for chump change or continue his PPV status with other opposition. I’m sure he will be considering the fact that a loss to AJ now will mean he slides back down the snake on this boxing board of snakes and ladders.
        Last edited by Batfink; 01-24-2019, 06:54 AM.

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        • Noelanthony
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          #124
          Originally posted by Batfink
          I wanted to come back to this post and reflect on the current position. I am happy that Dillian is considering a new promotor I think it is certainly the best career move as under matchroom the #1 is Joshua and what Aj wants Aj gets.

          It’s pretty clear that the only loyalty in this business from Eddies perspective is to the money not building relationships. Aj is the cash cow and king for matchroom and Eddie Hearn is his obsequious servant a sycophant who should have been subjected to a level of corporal punishment when he demonstrated insolence growing up because now he would have at a minimum some basic manners.

          It shouldn’t come as a suprise then that when push comes to shove Eddie would always choose Aj interests or desires well above doing right by Whyte and that is becoming increasingly clear particularly with his visit to the WBO HQ.

          It’s becoming evident that Aj may or may not favour a match with Dillian Whyte and perhaps would offer him a bout as a courtesy voluntary defence rather than a forced mandatory.

          Barry Hearn is the driving force behind Eddie Hearns visit to WBO HQ. The objective was to determine when and with whom will the mandatory defence of the WBO for Aj get called and whether that can be influenced by Matchroom. A social visit that could only have come about from Barry’s instructions, who himself comes from an era where there was an emphasis on personal relationships. Eddie is from email and phone generation it could never occur to him the value of a face to face - Queue Eddie on a plane to see Shelly Finkel ... Queue Eddie insta snaps of private jets and quoting business ... highly predictable, unintelligible an silk purse from a pigs ear.

          As I ruffle these feathers the outcome of a lavish lunch and exchange of gifts I think was simple that Usyk could potentially replace Whyte as a mandatory if he moves up in weight based on WBO rules...it’s possible

          The east end wheeler dealer now as some leverage over Whyte which he is more than happy to exploit considering that he mentioned the current offer to Whyte is direct from Joshua and God forbid that Hearn does anything other than what he is instructed to do by AJ. There’s a name for anyone that holds that position quoted heavily in many rap lyrics - would it be too harsh to refer to track 13 Dr Dre Chronic 2001? Please excuse my thug poetry ...

          That leaves Whyte accepting an offer that’s better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick or waiting years for a potential fight for a title.

          The rhetoric from Hearn is telling it’s now and these opportunities don’t come along very often...his intention is to use the Usyk card to force Whytes hand else leave him in the wilderness which could be 3 years considering that if Usyk can be called into the mandatory defence subject to him having the appetite to take on Joshua as his first heavyweight opponent this year then AJ is free for a while for a unification with wilder fury 2020 and perhaps 2021 for rematches leaving the earliest mandatory defence around Dec 2021 or April 2022.

          In another twist to this case the close relationship with Klitschko and matchroom is another card that Hearn can try to use to remove Whyte from the equation altogether. Try and get Klitschko vs Whyte and the winner comes to AJ.

          The point is for Dillian he is not going to get an favours from matchroom and the roadblocks are being put into place. Dillian has to choose between Aj now for chump change or continue his PPV status with other opposition. I’m sure he will be considering the fact that a loss to AJ now will mean he slides back down the snake on this boxing board of snakes and ladders.
          As bad as you claim Eddie is I have never heard many fighters that fight under the matchroom banner complain, even Dillon. Whyte fights on a fight by fight basis. Tell me a temp that has more rights than a permanent employee in the workforce? That’s normal practice , then coupled with the fact that his Full time under contract client is his cash cow that’s perfectly normal.

          I’m yet to meet or hear about a squeaky clean promoter. I think if you use Don King as a yardstick for promoters ,Eddie is doing a swell job. I agree with some of your points but as you will soon witness Whyte is very happy with Hearn. One always earns with Hearn

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          • Batfink
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            #125
            Time to put on the big boy pants

            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            As bad as you claim Eddie is I have never heard many fighters that fight under the matchroom banner complain, even Dillon. Whyte fights on a fight by fight basis. Tell me a temp that has more rights than a permanent employee in the workforce? That’s normal practice , then coupled with the fact that his Full time under contract client is his cash cow that’s perfectly normal.

            I’m yet to meet or hear about a squeaky clean promoter. I think if you use Don King as a yardstick for promoters ,Eddie is doing a swell job. I agree with some of your points but as you will soon witness Whyte is very happy with Hearn. One always earns with Hearn
            i can’t disagree with your sentiment it hits the mark. I would argue that Eddie Hearn does give the impression that he wants to get one over on you and tries to pull the wool over your eyes. I would like to quote Lennox Lewis “Outside of the ring, there are no gloves. We don’t put pillows on to soften the blow. Eddie needs to put his big boy pants on and understand that criticism and scrutiny are a part of the game.”

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            • Noelanthony
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              #126
              Originally posted by Batfink
              i can’t disagree with your sentiment it hits the mark. I would argue that Eddie Hearn does give the impression that he wants to get one over on you and tries to pull the wool over your eyes. I would like to quote Lennox Lewis “Outside of the ring, there are no gloves. We don’t put pillows on to soften the blow. Eddie needs to put his big boy pants on and understand that criticism and scrutiny are a part of the game.”
              Lololololol I couldn’t agree more. Although with Lewis his assertion did seem a tad personal. There is one thing criticising a fighters ambition but to point blank say a fighter is scared especially when you personally know the fighter it appears more personal . However having said that Lewis had a stellar career and fought all comers so he is well in his right to say what he says I suppose.

              I don’t really embroil myself in the shenanigans. What will be will be. As it stands now I feel AJ wants to fight Wilder, Fury, Whyte in that order. Maybe that wasn’t always the case but I like to focus on today and now

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              • Batfink
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                #127
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                Lololololol I couldn’t agree more. Although with Lewis his assertion did seem a tad personal. There is one thing criticising a fighters ambition but to point blank say a fighter is scared especially when you personally know the fighter it appears more personal . However having said that Lewis had a stellar career and fought all comers so he is well in his right to say what he says I suppose.

                I don’t really embroil myself in the shenanigans. What will be will be. As it stands now I feel AJ wants to fight Wilder, Fury, Whyte in that order. Maybe that wasn’t always the case but I like to focus on today and now
                Agreed 100% although I mustn’t get into the habit of sharing your perspective else it leaves little room to engage into interesting debates. I not sure what motivates Lennox Lewis into being so harsh on AJ i mean Joshua is a star done great so far and we the fans just wanna see how good he is and the others are. Can you imagine if Joshua knocks Tyson down Fury may be in danger of earning an Amir Khan reputation of great hand speed but very chinny. I’m so looking forward to how all this unfolds fantastic times ahead in the heavyweight division. I would like to read your opinion on the Klitschko potential comeback perhaps that’s best left on to another stream ...

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Batfink
                  Agreed 100% although I mustn’t get into the habit of sharing your perspective else it leaves little room to engage into interesting debates. I not sure what motivates Lennox Lewis into being so harsh on AJ i mean Joshua is a star done great so far and we the fans just wanna see how good he is and the others are. Can you imagine if Joshua knocks Tyson down Fury may be in danger of earning an Amir Khan reputation of great hand speed but very chinny. I’m so looking forward to how all this unfolds fantastic times ahead in the heavyweight division. I would like to read your opinion on the Klitschko potential comeback perhaps that’s best left on to another stream ...
                  Yeah there is definitely something in the mist in regards to Klitschko. All will be revealed in due time I imagine.

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