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  • #41
    Its news like this that makes me think Hearn doesn't have as much DAZN money as has been suggested. I mean just to get them on DAZN I think its worth overbidding.

    Or if Hearn legit has THAT much DAZN money his budget for 2019 is gonna be 70% higher cuz this years money just rolled over cuz his pinching pennies & not spending sh^t.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
      Here is the thing, as time goes on, they will be bidding on other sports league. Right now they chose boxing as the best way temporary to build their brand and increase their subscribers. And shortly after they obtained some MLB rights, but boxing in three or four years isn't going to be close to their main sport. If Hearn can't improve his stable, why pay BOTH GBP and Matchroom USA so much money when it is only needed for one of them? Or why pay Hearn $100+ million when there would be better use for GBP to get that type of budget?

      And Hearn wasn't needed one bit to sell DAZN on Canelo. Are you kidding me? That's the biggest American star....Who John Skipper was already working with his promoter on ESPN before he resigned and eventually got aboard on DAZN.

      DAZN isn't just going to be pouring out hundreds of millions of dollars on boxing when they feel like it isn't worth it. Will that eventually happen? Certainly possible.
      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
      Hearn didn’t sell chit
      It’s all that fughin money that brought Canelo over their
      And if he wants more names which can potentially showcase his stable or even just make him a factor ; he better start spending money
      And let’s be honest Canelo saved Dazn momentarily
      I'm satisfied, in my own mind, that Hearn helped bring Canelo to DAZN. If you don't agree and think he was lying about that, then so be it.

      I'm not interested in arguing about it again.
      Last edited by kafkod; 01-04-2019, 01:18 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by killakali View Post
        hurd should go to DAZN only after fighting his homecoming fight then Charlo Harrison 2 winner.

        He comes to DAZN to face Munguía for undisputed then can move to 160 for Canelo Andrade and likely Jacobs and GGG.

        U notice how he said Fox is ALMOST as good as fighting on ESPN? These athletes know what’s up.
        I caught that too! However, FOX and FS1 are pushing ESPN hard!

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        • #44
          Hurd is a great fighter, gonna clean up Super Welter.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            I can't see that happening. The more subscribers DAZN have who are interested in boxing, the more potential viewers for Hearn's shows. Hearn knows that, which is why he helped sell DAZN to Canelo's people.
            Problem is no one is interested in Hearns shows, they have all been crap and most people would rather just subscribe only when Canelo fights. I curious to see how many new subscribers actually are going to continue with DAZN after their free trial for the Canelo fight.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
              He legit came up the hard way and was far from one of Al's top prospects. Hurd pretty much accidentally got to the top lol. Wasn't a great amateur or anything but fought on a bunch of club shows and kept improving and delivered when he got his shot on SHO Box against Galarza in a fight he was the underdog in and then against Molina on the UC of Thurman/Porter.
              Exactly! Nobody else believed in him but now people want to come and pouch him away because he is World Champion

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Its news like this that makes me think Hearn doesn't have as much DAZN money as has been suggested. I mean just to get them on DAZN I think its worth overbidding.

                Or if Hearn legit has THAT much DAZN money his budget for 2019 is gonna be 70% higher cuz this years money just rolled over cuz his pinching pennies & not spending sh^t.
                One thing that was never clear was if the marketing money was coming out of the boxing budget? He said in one interview that they plan on spending like $50 million in marketing, well does that mean then he only has $75 million for his cards? And I mean even if that is the case, that is A LOT of money.

                I don't think the money was overstated, maybe he just didn't understand how much the fighters were getting paid. FFS, he was quoting the released purses and then wondered if it was legal what was going on at the PBC LOL. Hearn said Mikey Garcia makes over $3 million a fight and he offered significantly more money that he still turned down. And we saw the first offer to Broner which was really good, but if he wanted him then he probably should have offered more there as well. No one is leaving for comparable money to an unproven commodity.

                What I want to know is just how much he is paying guys like Big Baby Miller for all these mismatches? Like is he getting paid $1.5 million or something? How about Farmer? We know Andrade/BJS were set to make big money for their showdown.

                And to be fair even though he lost the purse bid, he put up good amount of money for Hooker/Saucedo.

                This is why I said all along why not over pay for Haney or Ennis? Get them on board and make them your future stars in a year or two. You got the money, it would make more sense to over pay for them opposed to Big Baby Miller lol.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Pechorin View Post
                  I was trolling lol.

                  However, I do believe he is a weight bully, and as soon as he moves up he will be expose. He's basically a black jcc jr.
                  not even the biggest weight bully at 154 though.


                  And I preferred the comparison I saw a few weeks back "Black Margarito" Laughed my ass off at that one.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    I caught that too! However, FOX and FS1 are pushing ESPN hard!
                    I think what he mean is that more people get to see their fights as ESPN and FOX aren't premium channels.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
                      Well waddell and Reed investors that bankrolled pbc have already sued forn misappropriation of funds. It's a black hole which is why I suspect there is no activity, it costs too much to have these guys fight each other, they're not canelo type draws!

                      As for canelo being paid as advertisment, don't you think 350 mil is a bit steep for advertisment? He is the biggest draw in boxing which is why they took him in..

                      And as for not being able to draw pbc fighters to dazn, they're literally BEGGING to fight canelo at this point. No doubt encouraged by Al who knows they're only worth that massive cash if they're fighting a true cash cow.
                      That lawsuit was 3 years ago (2016) Things must be going in the right direction if the Waddell/Haymon matrimony still exists.

                      It’s simple mathematics, no way this investment group is still bleeding losses without a impending divorce. Public investment groups have to answer to shareholders, so if PBC’s financial metrics weren’t on the up and up by now, Haymon/Waddell would have already parted ways.

                      As far as Canelo goes, he has absolutely nobody to fight unless they r ready to feed Jacobs to him this early, which they seem unwilling to do at this juncture. But if that Rocky fight was any indication of what’s to come, then it’s already a disaster !
                      Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 01-04-2019, 01:32 PM.

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