Andre Ward chimes in on Mayweather/Nasukawa, fires ether at GGG, Loma

[_Rexy_]

First of all, I didn't pick Rigo OR Loma. I said I wasn't sure how the fight would go, it depended on Rigo showing up - and he didn't.

Second of all, Floyd's signature win will always be Oscar. It's the fight that made him. But notice - Floyd went UP to meet Oscar at MW. Manny drained Oscar down to a zombie.

But the other thing you guys are missing. He's talking about those fighters who are overhyped by the media. Who are the only three fighters you know who are specifically overhyped as boogiemen?

Loma.

GGG (until he lost to Canelo).

Spence (who hasn't outsized his opponents until Mikey, which hasn't happened yet).

Process of elimination bro. He HAS to be talking about Loma and GGG.

Floyd never fought at MW. He fought Oscar at 154

[dannnnn]

But you obviously know he's referring to Loma/Rigo and GGG/Brook which are the biggest wins of both guys' resume, and what got them referred to as "boogiemen". Loma/Rigo I guarantee you is the one that crossed his mind when he wrote that tweet specifically.

Oh please... Golovkin was already the "boogeyman" of the middleweight division long before he fought Brook. In fact, it was that very reason - that he couldn't get big fights at middleweight despite being the champion - that the opportunity was offered to Brook. Don't pretend that guys like Danny Jacobs and Peter Quillin weren't always talking about "building that fight" when interviewed about it, or that Billy Joe Saunders didn't straight up admit Golovkin would beat him and Eubank Jr. on the same night. And yes Jacobs eventually fought him, but the point is that nobody was in a hurry to do so and it was like that for his entire career (Felix Sturm paying off the WBA to avoid fighting him, for example) until he started getting older.

As for Lomachenko, I don't think he ever particularly wanted to fight Rigondeaux. He even said afterwards that he doesn't give himself credit for the win due to the size disparity. It was Rigondeaux calling HIM out and making videos on Instagram and the like, and in the end Lomachenko simply accepted his challenge to shut him up. And don't pretend like there weren't people picking Rigondeaux to win that fight. Hindsight is 20/20.

Ward has always seemed very bitter towards Golovkin (and quite bitter in general, even in retirement) despite Golovkin keeping things respectful. Regardless of the back and forth between their respective teams over who did or didn't want the fight, Golovkin has always remained respectful unlike Ward who went around calling him "Li'l G" and things like that. Rather petty behaviour for somebody who likes to present himself as a good, humble Christian.

Then when Ward finally did face one of these so called "boogeymen" in Kovalev- he lost. He lost and he knew it, and I'm sure deep down (though he wouldn't admit it) it still haunts him a bit to this day. All the yes-men in the world can't change what you know in your heart.
Instead of being commended for his performance in which he survived an early knockdown and still went twelve competitive rounds with a guy few had at that point, he faced a public backlash and was lambasted for receiving an unjust victory. That hurts. Same thing happened to Tim Bradley after his first fight with Pacquiao and it clearly affected him.

Ward was never accepted by the boxing public in the way he felt he deserved to be and I think there's a lot of lingering resentment there.

[Floyd is TBE]

The argument that Loma deserves credit for beating Rigo because some random ass fanboys thought Rigo could win is absurd. That fight was a mismatch and nothing you say will change that. Go back and look at the vegas odds. Loma was a huge betting favorite. **** wasn't even close. Most people saw that fight for the joke that it was.

Spence will very likely make easy work of Mikey soon. Are you going to give Spence extra credit for beating up on Garcia because of all the Mexican trolls and racists here picking against Spence?

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The argument that Loma deserves credit for beating Rigo because some random ass fanboys thought Rigo could win is absurd. That fight was a mismatch and nothing you say will change that. Go back and look at the vegas odds. Loma was a huge betting favorite. **** wasn't even close. Most people saw that fight for the joke that it was.

Spence will very likely make easy work of Mikey soon. Are you going to give Spence extra credit for beating up on Garcia because of all the Mexican trolls and racists here picking against Spence?

The only time Mexican fans even get CLOSE to being racist is in retaliation to racist comments from guys like Dogboe and USA fighters who think it's funny to make taco jokes and Trump/build that wall jokes, as well as 'I ain't eva finna botta letta Mexican boy beat me' BS.

The same ones that bytch and whine about racism holding they careers bak.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Floyd never fought at MW. He fought Oscar at 154

Jr. What?

Jr. Middleweight. Ya picky bastid

[kingstip9]

Andre ward just on his usual bitter crusade once again.. i mean cmon relax ward.. Mayweather took the fight for crazy money, but you can’t expect the public to give kudos for the actual “fight”
Money aside, it was a complete sham which I forgot about and then saw the article lol

[kingstip9]

Jr. What?

Jr. Middleweight. Ya picky bastid

Jr middleweight and middleweight are two seperate weight classes..

[Floyd is TBE]

The only time Mexican fans even get CLOSE to being racist is in retaliation to racist comments from guys like Dogboe and USA fighters who think it's funny to make taco jokes and Trump/build that wall jokes, as well as 'I ain't eva finna botta letta Mexican boy beat me' BS.

The same ones that bytch and whine about racism holding they careers bak.

I'm talking about that one dude that keeps making threads about the imaginary race war between Spence and Garcia fans

[The Big Dunn]

You don't remember when people were saying Loma was the best fighter since Muhammad Ali?

VICE.com - calling him "World's Best Boxer"?

BBC - calling him "...one of the world's leading boxers"?

BoxNation - "5 Reasons Lomachenko Is The Best Boxer In The World"?

Bad Left Hook - "...done enough to be considered boxing's best"?

Mirror UK "...one of the greatest fighters we've ever seen"?

Ring - Fighter of the Year (beating Rigo)


Come on. The guy has a fraction of the fights of even the most basic of boxers. Crawford UNIFIED a division that hadn't been unified in years and yet the media waxes over Loma.

That's why I know Ward is including him - because of media exposure - and the fact Crawford only ever faced like two guys he outsized, neither of which were signature wins. Loma's signature win, he outsized.

I meant don’t recall him being labeled a boogeyman.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Jr middleweight and middleweight are two seperate weight classes..

It's called a missing prefix, the bottom line is, Floyd faced Oscar at a comfortable weight where Manny didn't.