Andre Ward chimes in on Mayweather/Nasukawa, fires ether at GGG, Loma

[The Big Dunn]

No one knows who he hes talking about. But def not Loma since he did interviews past and never said a bad word about him. Especially now he works with ESPN so some would say he part of the "biased espn crew" that consistently praises him.

Well only ggg has been referred to as a boogie man and ward tried to fight him when no one was willing so it’s pretty obvious.

I don’t know when Loma was ever referred to as a boogie man and you’re right about the espn connection.

[chrisJS]

Because when it was supposed to happen Loma wouldn’t have had such a huge weight advantage which would give the older and smaller Rigo a better chance. Then Arum stalled the fight ( with BS options on his future fights, something that Rigo didn’t want)and made sure Loma had even more size advantage.

Loma is very skilled but it’s disingenuous to act like the weight is a factor in every other fight except that one.

I saw a video I posted here with Rigo and there was no future options or clauses just a simple fight at 126 and like I said he turned down more money that he ended up making. I think he said "He's at 126. I'm at 122".

[Combat Talk Radio]

I think Golovkin's win over Jacobs is better than Brook given that he was a top middleweight too and a better fighter.

People like you picked Rigo but not sure that's his signature win. I personally feel the Linares, Russell and Walters ones are bigger/better wins.

What's Mayweather's "signature win"? Marquez who was a featherweight at 33 or Pacquaio who first won a title at flyweight?

First of all, I didn't pick Rigo OR Loma. I said I wasn't sure how the fight would go, it depended on Rigo showing up - and he didn't.

Second of all, Floyd's signature win will always be Oscar. It's the fight that made him. But notice - Floyd went UP to meet Oscar at MW. Manny drained Oscar down to a zombie.

But the other thing you guys are missing. He's talking about those fighters who are overhyped by the media. Who are the only three fighters you know who are specifically overhyped as boogiemen?

Loma.

GGG (until he lost to Canelo).

Spence (who hasn't outsized his opponents until Mikey, which hasn't happened yet).

Process of elimination bro. He HAS to be talking about Loma and GGG.

[The Big Dunn]

I saw a video I posted here with Rigo and there was no future options or clauses just a simple fight at 126 and like I said he turned down more money that he ended up making. I think he said "He's at 126. I'm at 122".

I didn’t see that. There is never a simple fight with Arum. I don’t think he’s suddenly change the way he operates just for Rigo, especially after he beat donaire previously and Loma already lost to Salido.

Arum wanted to ensure his guy had the best chance to win as he usually does. No reason to pretend otherwise. Doesn’t make Loma any less skilled or make the win a loss. It’s just acknowledging how Arum works.

Either way it’s disingenuous to say physicality had no bearing on the outcome. It’s the same argue t you made when voicing opposition to Crawford v loma.

Posters picking Rigo to beat Loma doesn’t erase the size difference and the affect it had in that fight.

[AKAcronym]

We all know damn well he's talking about GGG.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I don’t know when Loma was ever referred to as a boogie man and you’re right about the espn connection.

He wasn't specifically referred to as it, but what the hell do you think "Nomaschenko" is? It's basically the same thing.

Loma is big time hyped, but only after he made Rigo quit. Beating Linares did a little, but it was specifically after beating Rigo the media blew up on him, everyone's afraid of him, etc.

[The Big Dunn]

He wasn't specifically referred to as it, but what the hell do you think "Nomaschenko" is? It's basically the same thing.

Loma is big time hyped, but only after he made Rigo quit. Beating Linares did a little, but it was specifically after beating Rigo the media blew up on him, everyone's afraid of him, etc.

I don’t recall all this. I agree with Retro because of the espn connection. I honestly only recall ggg and now Spence being “boogeymen”.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I don’t recall all this. I agree with Retro because of the espn connection. I honestly only recall ggg and now Spence being “boogeymen”.

You don't remember when people were saying Loma was the best fighter since Muhammad Ali?

VICE.com - calling him "World's Best Boxer"?

BBC - calling him "...one of the world's leading boxers"?

BoxNation - "5 Reasons Lomachenko Is The Best Boxer In The World"?

Bad Left Hook - "...done enough to be considered boxing's best"?

Mirror UK "...one of the greatest fighters we've ever seen"?

Ring - Fighter of the Year (beating Rigo)


Come on. The guy has a fraction of the fights of even the most basic of boxers. Crawford UNIFIED a division that hadn't been unified in years and yet the media waxes over Loma.

That's why I know Ward is including him - because of media exposure - and the fact Crawford only ever faced like two guys he outsized, neither of which were signature wins. Loma's signature win, he outsized.

[vaynardevil]

lol what a ****
he started as LHW in amateur and then SMW in profesional O_o
he has been weight bully alltime until step up weight against kovalev

[jas]

He has a point

I was entertained by the floyd fight.

The hate is real for floyd.