Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia on Doing VADA Testing For Errol Spence Fight

[Shadoww702]

What’s the major difference between Wada and Vada?

WADA has the labs and protocols on getting samples.

VADA hires contractors to get the samples.

[davefromvancouv]

Mikey will be damaged goods after this fight, just like Brook after GGG. He should have been having an undisputed fight with Lomachenko and Spence should have been unifying with Crawford. This is a totally unnecessary fight.

[joseph5620]

You

Firstly, that part you bolded is what's known as a rhetorical question (look it up) and it was merely used to further illustrate my point that drug testing is unfortunately not quite as simple as "pass = clean athlete; fail = dirty athlete"- a point which seemingly flew straight over your head. But I won't hold it against you because you admittedly didn't bother to read the rest of the "garbage" I wrote (though how you assessed it as garbage without actually reading it is a mystery to me).

Secondly - and of least importance since you basically just conceded defeat in the argument with your last post anyway - the fighters' names you were actually looking for were Spence and Brook. Those were the two I accused of taking banned PEDs, not Mikey Garcia. Go back and read (not your strong point, I know). I never accused Garcia of anything, primarily because I'm not convinced he is a drug cheat.

He will of course come under more scrutiny for this fight considering he has made the effort to go and work with Victor Conte directly in an attempt to bulk up in weight in an effective manner - and you can guarantee that Conte knows all about Spence's PED usage and will have informed Garcia (though I'm sure he's already well aware since it's not exactly the most well kept secret in boxing) - but scrutiny is all it will be. I don't accuse people for no reason and thus far I've never accused Garcia of anything, so get your facts straight.

You just accused two fighters of cheating with no evidence or facts just because you think they they are. That makes you an idiot which I already stated.

There is no conceding defeat. I can call you an idiot and tell you why without using multiple paragraph's that you feel the need to do because you have no substance. But you can keep wasting your energy.

[dannnnn]

You

You just accused two fighters of cheating with no evidence or facts just because you think they they are. That makes you an idiot which I already stated.

There is no conceding defeat. I can call you an idiot and tell you why without using multiple paragraph's that you feel the need to do because you have no substance. But you can keep wasting your energy.

This isn't a court of law, I don't need evidence or facts to state the obvious. If you can't see what anyone with two eyes and as many brain cells can, that's your problem. If you wanna keep living in La La Land where all athletes are clean unless they fail a drug test, that's your choice. Only tell me, were the people who accused Lance Armstrong of using banned substances for years despite him never failing a test also idiots? Because trust me, out of the two of us on this topic, I'm not the idiot here.

[Ake-Dawg]

This isn't a court of law, I don't need evidence or facts to state the obvious. If you can't see what anyone with two eyes and as many brain cells can, that's your problem. If you wanna keep living in La La Land where all athletes are clean unless they fail a drug test, that's your choice. Only tell me, were the people who accused Lance Armstrong of using banned substances for years despite him never failing a test also idiots? Because trust me, out of the two of us on this topic, I'm not the idiot here.

What makes it obvious? Many don't see it. Enlighten them.

[megh50]

Spence, clean? Don't make me laugh. He might not bother taking any "additional supplements" for this fight since it's a mismatch anyway, but he's already shown he can beat VADA testing for the Kell Brook fight, as did Brook himself.

If you really wanna beat the testing - any testing - it can be done, and in many different ways. Just ask Victor Conte, the guy who is supposedly teaching Mikey Garcia how to do sit-ups and push-ups for this fight. He's said those exact words many times, as has his former colleague Angel "Memo" Heredia.

And I'm not attacking nor insulting any of the boxers I've named here- in fact I'm fans of all of them and don't blame any of them for doing what's needed to ensure a level playing field in sports in this day and age. I'm just saying that if you believe this crap that any fighter who passes VADA or USADA drug testing is automatically proven to be clean, then you're extremely ignorant on this topic.

Maybe this is the thing that Mikey is "seeing" with Spence that encouraged him to take the fight. The excessive weight gain between fights, infrequent fighting (once a year) and with VADA testing...it makes the fight interesting. Both Charlos looked ordinary once VADA testing was implemented...but who knows.

[joseph5620]

This isn't a court of law, I don't need evidence or facts to state the obvious. If you can't see what anyone with two eyes and as many brain cells can, that's your problem. If you wanna keep living in La La Land where all athletes are clean unless they fail a drug test, that's your choice. Only tell me, were the people who accused Lance Armstrong of using banned substances for years despite him never failing a test also idiots? Because trust me, out of the two of us on this topic, I'm not the idiot here.

Yes you do. If you're going to claim something as a fact you need evidence to prove it for credibility. If you don't have anything to back up what you're saying you come across as an idiot and a liar which you clearly do.


Nobody is talking about Lance Armstrong here but you can keep using your useless diversionary tactics which further shows you have no credibility.

[Tha Kid]

Spence, clean? Don't make me laugh. He might not bother taking any "additional supplements" for this fight since it's a mismatch anyway, but he's already shown he can beat VADA testing for the Kell Brook fight, as did Brook himself.

If you really wanna beat the testing - any testing - it can be done, and in many different ways. Just ask Victor Conte, the guy who is supposedly teaching Mikey Garcia how to do sit-ups and push-ups for this fight. He's said those exact words many times, as has his former colleague Angel "Memo" Heredia.

And I'm not attacking nor insulting any of the boxers I've named here- in fact I'm fans of all of them and don't blame any of them for doing what's needed to ensure a level playing field in sports in this day and age. I'm just saying that if you believe this crap that any fighter who passes VADA or USADA drug testing is automatically proven to be clean, then you're extremely ignorant on this topic.

And you an expert? 🤔

[PapaBricks]

Nice, That's a good look.
The fact that they both came up with it makes it even better.
Random blood and urine should me mandatory for everybody competing professionally.

[Luilun]

What will be the excuses when Spence loses ? He didn’t take him serious , Mikey was on steroids , he had a cold ?