Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Backs Split, Not Flat Fee, For Joshua-Wilder Fight

[Raggamuffin]

Hearn is as greedy as a snake so that won’t happen.AJ needs to man up and actually want this fight to happen, which is questionable as well. Oh well, Fury-Wilder 2 is better anyway.

I don't see how anyone thinks that Joshua deserves 60% of anything lmao. And some are even calling him the champion, lmao. ****en laughable. He can keep on fighting the Whyte's and 40 year old Headvetkins of the world in the uk. He will rot there like he's doing now. Now he's begging to get in the mix when he was the straw who could've stirred the drink.

Aging Wilder is his only chance of even trying to make the fight. He is calculating that as we speak. "Wilder only has about 2-3 years left". Joshua saw the Fury and Wilder fight regardless of what he tells fans, and saw Fury give Wilder a great fight and said...I can beat Wilder, lmao.

Motor City Cobras sig shows exactly how I feel about Joshua, lmao. Wait your turn coward. All you'll do is throw out a flat fee offer anyway and derail the fight. You should've conducted real business. You have your promoter asking where the money is coming from. You asked Haymon and Finkel to show you proof of money lmao. These men worked for Floyd and Leonard lmao. You thought that Wilder needed you. You think that Fury needs you. Foh.

[aboutfkntime]

And while Joshua is huge to you in the UK......

bro, a funny thing.....

when I said this.....

Joshua IS ducking Wilder lol

there is no question about that, it is clearly obvious

until he offers Wilder 32.5% (min), then he is avoiding that fight..... because that is what they were willing to pay Parker, and Wilder > Parker

I am not from the UK, nor am I from the US

and I like both guys

I thought you would know..... I am a kiwi, my boy is Parker lmao

ok, I will keep it real, as always.....

so, Parker was worth 32.5% to Anthony Joshua..... ???

really..... ???..... how ???

there are only 4 million people here, and we do not like boxing..... so that may have posed a slight problem for Fast Eddie..... many people would likely walk past Joe in the street and not know who he is..... if he seemed familiar, they would probably think he was a rugby player

he got 32.5% of SHlTLOADSSSSSSS!!!!!

they OVER-paid Joe..... because they REALLY wanted to fight Joe

Higgins did a great job of managing that deal, he stayed tight...... he knew what he had, and knew his position..... Higgins comes across a bit square, but he did a great job..... he knew they needed that fight

that is the worst Hearn deal by my recall, usually Fast Eddie makes out like a bandit

so, that 32.5% may be a HIGH benchmark to judge where the negotiation for Wilders split should start..... especially with Joshua selling out Wembley and all

just keeping it real about my boy, but also keeping it real about Wilder..... who is a largely-unknown heavyweight in his own country

Wilder should take 35%, especially considering the fact that he was willing to fight Joshua for $15M..... but I think they could probably get 37.5 - 40% now following the Fury fight, which helped raise Wilders profile in the UK big time..... but it all depends on when Joshua and Eddie are ready to make the fight?

they have not even come close to making a reasonable effort to genuinely secure that fight at this point

also, that fight is 50/50..... or, should I say..... Wilder is AT LEAST 50/50 in that fight imho..... he has a great chance of landing betsy sometime in that fight..... he has a great chance of landing either a fight-winning punch or a fight-changing punch in that matchup

I just keep it real, no dog in that fight..... but I keep it real with Parker as well

[aboutfkntime]

Joshua doesn't deserve ****. He purchased his titles through cowardice and a promoter who has more interest in making money than legacy. Wilder and Joshua aren't fighting anytime soon alt. Blame that on Joshua as well. And Joshua isn't the champion alt. He can have 30 bogus titles and he will still be labeled a ****en stiff stoic coward.

he is not a coward, they are real smart

they are doing exactly they should be doing, which is making the most money possible

Joshua will get in there with Wilder, no question..... when the time is right for them

our problem is, the dude sells out Wembley

THAT is the issue man, that is the reason

by avoiding that fight now..... they gain useful experience for their young fighter..... they make BIG money no matter who they put in there with him..... and Wilder could possibly get outboxed by Fury or someone else in the meantime..... setting up a more favourable matchup against Wilders conqueror

I am sure Joshua will fight Wilder if he keeps winning, they just don't need to take that risk at this point..... imho, they could probably defer that fight for another 12-18 months yet..... and Wilder only really made himself relevant earlier this month

I can see whats up

I don't even really mind what they are doing, if they make that fight eventually..... but the Joshua fans who have decided to blame Wilder are just idiots..... I like Joshua, and he is a beast..... and I understand what they are doing..... but I climb into his excuse-making idiot fans when they decide to turn a blind eye to reality and throw other fighters under a bus

we had enough of that from pac-tards and golov-idiots

enough

[P4Pdunny]

Lewis at this point is annoying

[Fabes88]

I am saying NO such thing.....

I am saying..... learn the sport

1) Wilders purse for Fury has no bearing whatsoever on what he should be paid for fighting Joshua

2) Wilders purses EVER, have no bearing whatsoever on what he should be paid for fighting Joshua

3) btw, Wilder got 50% for Fury

the ONLY relevant factor is..... what that fight will generate, and how much Wilder brings to the table..... so, come on

Hearn slipped up and recently admitted that.....

"At the moment I think a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favor is fair"
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-if...-50-50--133005

so....

1) any previous flat-fee offer..... was rubbish

2) it is clearly obvious, and has been for quite some time, that Wilder is worth somewhere between 35-40%..... so the ONLY relevant question is.....

Q. why haven't they offered Wilder between 35-40% ?

A. they offered Joseph Parker 32.5% because they ACTUALLY wanted to fight Joseph Parker

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the only relevant factor is what wilder brings to the table and what he can generate then say “oh yeah it doesn’t matter what he made in the fury fight that has no bearing on what he should be paid” how else are we supposed to judge what it is a fighter generates if we don’t use previous purses. You’re just pulling numbers out of your ass. If it doesn’t matter what wilder made against fury why does it matter what Parker gets?

It’s one or the other. Deep down you know the flat fee offer wasn’t that bad if its more than he makes anywhere else. Including what was deemed a successful ppv. Like I said he won’t make enough that the flat fee offer looks ridiculous in comparison.

Anyway this is pointless because from October he’s been offered a split so that should answer your questions. So answer me this he’s got the offer he wants why doesn’t he take the fight?


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[Ake-Dawg]

Al Haymon would be a fool to have Wilder take 40% in a fight with Joshua. Lennox keeps pointing this out yet some fans here think that Wilder still deserves only a flat fee. Foh lmao.

Tell us why he would be a fool? Financially or otherwise? Where is there room to stand on principle and beat his chest trying to force a 50-50 fight in the US. Yes he fought Ortiz and Fury and raised his profile. However it takes 2 to tango and Wilder is no one man show. Oh and FYI, Lennox thinks 60-40 gets it done. Only a couple of uninformed knuckle draggers are still talking flat fee.

If this site is any indication, Joshua is worshipped in the UK. The revenue for a fight their would be through the roof. 40% of that is a haul. Then it only makes the rematch over in the US even bigger.

[champion4ever]

After fighting Ortiz and then Fury why would Wilder accept 60-40?

So are you saying that he shouldn't settle for less than 50 percent? I'd say he deserves at least 45 percent but I can live with 40 percent. One thing I can say is that Wilder's bargaining power is a lot stronger than it was a year ago. I believe that 40 percent is a good starting point because after all he could get even more than that.

[champion4ever]

he significantly raised his profile with the UK fans

I think 35% - 37.5% would get it done

FACT: if they really that fight, it would simply happen

like I said months ago..... when Joshua's numbers drop noticeably, Hearn will suddenly have no problem negotiating that fight

As much as I have mad respect for you Bro; However, I must vehemently disagree with you. That number is too low. It's either 40 percent or no deal. If Parker is worth at least 32 percent of the purse split, coming from an unknown country then Wilder is worthy of at least 8 percentage points higher than that number coming from a Super Power and the mecca of boxing which is in America.

[Ake-Dawg]

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the only relevant factor is what wilder brings to the table and what he can generate then say “oh yeah it doesn’t matter what he made in the fury fight that has no bearing on what he should be paid” how else are we supposed to judge what it is a fighter generates if we don’t use previous purses. You’re just pulling numbers out of your ass. If it doesn’t matter what wilder made against fury why does it matter what Parker gets?

It’s one or the other. Deep down you know the flat fee offer wasn’t that bad if its more than he makes anywhere else. Including what was deemed a successful ppv. Like I said he won’t make enough that the flat fee offer looks ridiculous in comparison.

Anyway this is pointless because from October he’s been offered a split so that should answer your questions. So answer me this he’s got the offer he wants why doesn’t he take the fight?


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.s...anthony-joshua

What was that split? You seem to be of the belief that what a fighter brings to the table can only be expressed in purse size. That presumes that two fighters are in the same market and pull from the same pool of fans. This is not the case. Further, Wilder brings the huge threat of a loss, the potential to see a brutal KO, the WBC belt, potential national bragging rights, a US fan base that will travel, and a small UK fan base. Those are ingredients when mixed together with what Joshua brings to the table make a mega fight. The ppv cost will be higher, the seat costs will be higher. The revenue will be far and away greater than the usual big money Joshua fights make.

[Ake-Dawg]

As much as I have mad respect for you Bro; However, I must vehemently disagree with you. That number is too low. It's either 40 percent or no deal. If Parker is worth at least 32 percent of the purse split, coming from an unknown country then Wilder is worthy of at least 8 percentage points higher than that number coming from a Super Power and the mecca of boxing which is in America.

The value Parker brought was the leverage that it's currently being wielded over Wilder right now. It made Joshua the gateway to undisputed and gave his fans another trinket to brag about.

At this moment what does Team Wilder leverage to get above 40%? Fury fight? Ok after that, then what?