Is Luis Ortiz really that good?

[BigZ44]

Still the best 50+ year old dude in boxing

[STREET CLEANER]

Many here say that he is not good in the mean time a few top boxers have been steering clear away from him.

[damned1974]

LOL....Usyk hasn't even had a HW fight and AJ and Whyte beat him "so easy" that both guys ducked him....stop it!

[Falkano]

If he wasn't then people would be rushing to fight him but instead Ortiz is being turned down by other contenders because he is clearly dangerous despite being "OLD"

This is part of the myth that it seems some still believe.
Ortiz has had loads of offers to fight people. He turns them down. He had an offer to headline a ppv with Whyte but didn't take it.
Some people say well why doesn't Joshua, Fury etc take the fight. Why should they? What has Ortiz actually done to deserve a shot at the elite? For his fight against Wilder he fought a guy who lost 3 of his past 5 fights and was given a shot at the title because of it.
If I remember correctly Parker offered him a deal prior to the Whyte fight.
Ortiz is just looking for that last pay day and he doesn't deserve it until he actually does something of note.

[REDEEMER]

LIES!



All I'm hearing is EXCUSES!

You're not hearing anything but selective viideos. Ortiz has been challenged by Joyce while he was with Haye. Ortiz declined Whyt e in 2016 and wanted more time to prepare for Whyte in June 2018 which he said he needs a few more months and he would need until October. Ortiz could have fought AJ but left his mandatory spot to fight Wilder after he was guaranteed a contract but didn't want to hear it.

You guys just be in need of a father figure of sorts to pump this guy up, even David Allen jumped at him ? He's not avoided at all.

[sicko]

You're not hearing anything but selective viideos. Ortiz has been challenged by Joyce while he was with Haye. Ortiz declined Whyt e in 2016 and wanted more time to prepare for Whyte in June 2018 which he said he needs a few more months and he would need until October. Ortiz could have fought AJ but left his mandatory spot to fight Wilder after he was guaranteed a contract but didn't want to hear it.

You guys just be in need of a father figure of sorts to pump this guy up, even David Allen jumped at him ? He's not avoided at all.

And Ortiz has accepted the challenge just like he accepted Dillian Whyte Challenge...



Lets see if it happens but don't hold your breath, Joyce Trainer is saying "No Yet" which I agree


As for Whyte, Luis Ortiz had to jump on Twitter and respond to Dillian Whyte and issues the challenge. However, Ortiz manager Jay Jimenz said when speaking to Eddie Hearn they was offered a 3 Fight deal for a lot of money to go back to Matchroom with neither of them being Dillian Whyte

[ShoulderRoll]

He is an alumnus of the Cuban school, trained at La Finca.

He beat Bryant Jennings more impressively than Wladimir Klitschko did and almost slept Deontay Wilder.

Of course he's really that good. Just ask Dillian Shyte...he's terrified of facing Ortiz.

[REDEEMER]

And Ortiz has accepted the challenge just like he accepted Dillian Whyte Challenge...



Lets see if it happens but don't hold your breath, Joyce Trainer is saying "No Yet" which I agree


As for Whyte, Luis Ortiz had to jump on Twitter and respond to Dillian Whyte and issues the challenge. However, Ortiz manager Jay Jimenz said when speaking to Eddie Hearn they was offered a 3 Fight deal for a lot of money to go back to Matchroom with neither of them being Dillian Whyte

You're doing nothing more then carefully selecting moments where fighters are preoccupied or have chosen other fights. Jimenez is a known liar to, he claims Ortiz was promised a fight with AJ by the WBA when that title was vacant at that time ? Which kills the lies that AJ had to fight him after Klitschko Ha