Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas Back Judges: They Got it Right, Harrison Beat Charlo!

[kingstip9]

Watching strictly as a fan of boxing, I thought it was robbery the first time I watched it. But the second time, I actually studied the fight and scored it a draw. And that’s because I gave a couple of close rounds to Charlo. Had I given those close rounds to Harrison, I would of had the same scores as the judges.

So you let in fight commentating and crowd influence your scoring

[juggalopaul]

I find this whole situation interesting because to me it was a huge robbery however I am always open to discussion and sharing opinions with others. There really seems to be many people who truly believe Harrison won this fight.

[Bjl12]

it is hard to argue with your post, good work..... but how they see it is, defence IS valid scoring criteria..... so defence > ineffective aggression

that is what I was meaning about old-school judges..... that is why Willie Pep won a round without throwing a punch..... and that is why Adelaide Byrd still has a job after Canelo/Golovkin I

she had the right idea, but forgot to watch both fighters..... how she found some of those very quiet middle-rounds for Canelo is amusing, but yea, like most old-school judges..... when a pressure fighter faces a boxer, and the pressure fighter is ineffective, then she will score for the boxer

Canelo GGG 1 being referred to as a robbery will always bug me. Every GGG stan is okay with Canelo getting rounds 2, 3, 10, 11, 12. Why 10, 11n and 12? Because ALL three judges gave Canelo 2, 10, 11, and 12...even the guy that scored it for GGG.

So if everyone is comfortable with Canelo getting 5 rounds...how is it a robbery?

I gave Canelo 1-4, 10-12. Canelo won 7-5.

The middle rounds Canelo defended well and landed nice counter shots, but he was simply outworked even if he negated most of Gennadys offense

[Pinoy4ever]

Gotta love Atlas. Calling it like it is!

[Devils Advocate]

Teddy called this one about right. Charlo was aggressive and landed but Harrison stayed fast, tight and sharp for the entire fight. He was accurate, and not loading up. i would love to see the rematch. P.S. Teddy, what's your drink of choice- scotch, bourbon, whiskey, or gin?

I had to watch it a second time on mute to arrive at the conclusion that Harrison could have one the fight. When I watched it a second time on mute I learned that I scored more rounds in favor of Charlo for taking chances and being the aggresor but in doing missed a lot of shots and was on the receiving end of clean effective punches. In fact Charlo countered several times and he was hurt in the round 5. That said, my eyes tell me that Charlo won by 1 point because of the last two rounds that Harrison took off but I can respect the outcome.

Ultimately I think Jermell prepared for a Harrison that would fade after round 9 and not a Harrison prepared to go 12.

[Madison Boxing]

Harrison won that fight

[Bronx2245]

There was a time you had to "beat" the champion, in order to take his title. Harrison did well, but not enough to take the champions title! If it is a close round, which there were probably about 5 or 6 of those, I would give the round to the aggressor! Not the guy going backwards! Rematch should be good!

[DuckAdonis]

Here Teddy knows his boxing

I thought Jermell won the first time I watched it as well, but I wasn't really paying close attention to the fight and what landed and what didn't. After rewatching the fight I came up with the same score as the judges...115-113 for Harrison. He was controlling the fight with his jab, made Charlo miss wild swinging shots, and countered him when he needed to for the majority of the fight. He did just about enough to get the W. Good job by the judges.

For anyone wondering I have Harrison winning rounds 2,3,4,6,7,9,10 and Charlo rounds 1,5,8,11,12.

[HarvardBlue]

Teddy Atlas has no credibility here. He went on a public meltdown in close fights because his guy didn't win, now he's having an epiphany because he didn't have a favorite in this fight. The fight was close. My eyes tells me Jermell won the fight, but he didn't look spectacular doing it. Believe it or not, it's almost like the first Pacquiao/Bradley fight. Pacquiao didn't look like his old self and the judges dinged him for it. Because Pacquiao was the more popular fighter, the outrage was far greater. Pacquiao won that fight but didn't look great and suffered the consequences. Jermell to a lesser extent didnt look good against an opponent that fought better than expected. Although, Harrison has shown that he can box but always fall short because of his poor stamina in big fights. The judges gave Harrison the benefit of the win but I can't say he necessarily deserved it.

[Realizniguhnit]

Not that Harrison is anything like Floyd but it was very similar to Floyd vs Maidana where Maidana was really agressive but Floyd was landing the cleaner punches but some people thought Floyd loss

But like he said boxing is subjective. I personally had it a draw or slight edge for Harrison for landing cleaner punches and avoiding getting hit with big shots for the most part it's hit and not get hit