Oh, The Hypocrisy Of AJ Fan!

[EasternEuroFan]

So B T would just drive up Skye cost to get the fight for fun by creating purse bids ?

So Hearn will bid on something he can't put the fight on it he gets out bid ? You're in the business alright , giving everyone the business of lying.

Well, that's no different to the terms in the flat fee that Hearn sent Wilder too. It'd mean Hearn has the rights to sell the broadcasting fights to whoever he chooses, like Wilder's team would have if AJ accepted the $50m.

Both flat fee offers just means you own the fighter for the fight and everything else is under your control.

So for those saying AJ was right to refuse it because the fight might end up on BT or whatever if they won a bid..then Wilder was right to refuse the same treatment.

[Robbie Barrett]

Well, that's no different to the terms in the flat fee that Hearn sent Wilder too. It'd mean Hearn has the rights to sell the broadcasting fights to whoever he chooses, like Wilder's team would have if AJ accepted the $50m.

Both flat fee offers just means you own the fighter for the fight and everything else is under your control.

So for those saying AJ was right to refuse it because the fight might end up on BT or whatever if they won a bid..then Wilder was right to refuse the same treatment.

There's no "right" to refuse, Joshua flat out couldn't accept. He's legally tied to Sky Sports. Haymon/Wilder knew this, BT shouldn't have even been in the discussion. They'd have made more on Sky anyway, Sky are a much bigger PPV network. The only reason to involve BT is because they didn't actually want the fight.

[Laligalaliga]

So lemme get this straight.

Wilder, backed by guys who have been involved with EVERY 100M fight since 2007, offers AJ 50M guaranteed and some of y'all TO THIS DAY maintain the offer was not real (TO THIS DAY!).

Even with journalists, industry insiders, rival promoters who say they SAW the offer, and the president of Showtime confirming the 50M was legit, some of you still don't believe it...TO THIS DAY!

BUT...

Anthony Joshua, who is notorious for putting his foot in his mouth, gets in front of a microphone- and while never mentioning a specific number- spouts some gibberish about doubling Wilder's biggest payday (as if that has ANYTHING to do with THIS FIGHT, which it doesn't), AND THAT YOU BELIEVE AS GOSPEL????????

The 28 million is folks ASSUMING, since AJ never said the number specifically.

And since AJ nor his promoter has ever been involved with a 100M fight, on what basis should anyone assume such an offer is legit?

We know there was a term sheet connected to Wilder's offer of 50M, so where is AJ's?

But, let's humor AJ and assume his running off at the mouth is actually something Hearn will back.

Is a flat fee of 28 million a good offer?

Could be, depending of what the fight does.

I will say right out that if it is for a fight in Britain, 28M is a very decent guarantee as long as a split is involved as AJ said it would be. If, on the other hand it is in Vegas, it may not be as good an offer.

But let's see that term sheet if it is a real offer.

And BTW, Wilder vs Fury II in Vegas MAY STILL be a better option for Wilder.

Lolx.... We know how real offers are made.
Can you now join the short bus?

[Froch_uppercut]

So lemme get this straight.

Wilder, backed by guys who have been involved with EVERY 100M fight since 2007, offers AJ 50M guaranteed and some of y'all TO THIS DAY maintain the offer was not real (TO THIS DAY!).

Even with journalists, industry insiders, rival promoters who say they SAW the offer, and the president of Showtime confirming the 50M was legit, some of you still don't believe it...TO THIS DAY!

BUT...

Anthony Joshua, who is notorious for putting his foot in his mouth, gets in front of a microphone- and while never mentioning a specific number- spouts some gibberish about doubling Wilder's biggest payday (as if that has ANYTHING to do with THIS FIGHT, which it doesn't), AND THAT YOU BELIEVE AS GOSPEL????????

The 28 million is folks ASSUMING, since AJ never said the number specifically.

And since AJ nor his promoter has ever been involved with a 100M fight, on what basis should anyone assume such an offer is legit?

We know there was a term sheet connected to Wilder's offer of 50M, so where is AJ's?

But, let's humor AJ and assume his running off at the mouth is actually something Hearn will back.

Is a flat fee of 28 million a good offer?

Could be, depending of what the fight does.

I will say right out that if it is for a fight in Britain, 28M is a very decent guarantee as long as a split is involved as AJ said it would be. If, on the other hand it is in Vegas, it may not be as good an offer.

But let's see that term sheet if it is a real offer.

And BTW, Wilder vs Fury II in Vegas MAY STILL be a better option for Wilder.

Please stop now ok, that's enough ******ity. You Wilder hangers on TO THIS DAY can't admit he's a coward. At least some more intelligent and rational American boxing fans have called it what it is, a duck. Plain and simple.

You simply can't defend this guy. He's admitted Hearn is doing everything to make the fight, and he's admitted he is not interested. How much simpler can this be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcfEuog_yk

[Laligalaliga]

Only AJ die hards still believe Hearn / AJ and co. Want this fight to happen before 2020

Hearn can have negotiations in public and AJ can make half Hearted statements that he wants the fight next but when you duck and dodge the fight for months in the summer even though being offered exactly what you’re on record saying the amount you want and basically already have a opponet lined up for his next fight it’s tough to believe anything AJ and his team say regarding anAJ / Wilder Fight

And now a very lucrative offer in on his lap. A signature on it confirms the undisputed.
Only canelo can make this kind of offer, so it's pretty huge. Not even talking about the 4 belts on the line.

Looking at it critically, AJ have more to loose in this fight than wilder that got nothing but a gift few weeks ago.

[Laligalaliga]

Problem with that is no one believes you AJ doesn’t even believe you which is why he was on his apology tour doing damage control

And if AJ really thinks Fury was the winner why isn't he going after Fury?

hez made it clear. Hez interested in the guy with the belt. It doesn't matter who has the belt, hez getting KTFO.
That's the target.
This is predator and prey, hez coming for you...

[Laligalaliga]

Wilder himself said Hearn is begging him to fight AJ but he will fight Fury instead because Fury and himself are the best and AJ is number 3. The 50 million offer to AJ was to fight Wilder in the USA and AJ won't fight him in the USA. He will fight Wilder in the UK for far less money but Wilder doesn't want to fight him in the UK and now says he will only fight Fury next.

It's clear like day light.
Wilder prefer fury cos he knows fury cannot hurt him.
He wants the soft work.
He doesn't want to go to sleep before then final bell but with fury at least final bell is guaranteed.

[Brooklyn926]

You morons taking about 50mil this and term sheet that, negotiations and contracts when none of you know s#!t or have anything to do with the negotiations but yet yous talk with the conviction of someone with skin in the game like you gonna make money, like you gonna do anything but pay to watch the fight then play Monday morning quarterback.

[R_Walken]

And now a very lucrative offer in on his lap. A signature on it confirms the undisputed.
Only canelo can make this kind of offer, so it's pretty huge. Not even talking about the 4 belts on the line.

Looking at it critically, AJ have more to loose in this fight than wilder that got nothing but a gift few weeks ago.

If it’s a legit offer from Hearn and co. ( who knows with him ) and it’s roughly a 60/40 split then yeah I agree Wilder should jump all over that and make the fight

But the thing is like Dibella says when you negotiate through the media it’s usually because you don’t want the fight and at this point anything Hearn says publicly regarding AJ / Wilder should be taken with a grain of salt he hasn’t really been the most trustworthy person when it comes to these negotiations in my opinion

[N/A]

So B T would just drive up Skye cost to get the fight for fun by creating purse bids ?

No, because then BT risks being on the hook for a bid higher than they'd want to pay, or the fight falls apart because Finkel is asking too much from Sky and then Joshua refuses to do the fight if it's not on Sky.

Also, Sky PPV is a lot more successful than BT PPV. Finkel had a lot of incentive for the fight to be on Sky PPV. Keep in mind it's not like Sky and BT are bidding tons of money to "buy" the fight. The fight is going on PPV. What Sky and BT are bidding on is, #1 - how many PPV buys will they guarantee, #2 - how many marketing dollars will they commit, #3 - how much air time will they devote to promoting the fight, etc.