Oh, The Hypocrisy Of AJ Fan!

[koolkc107]

So lemme get this straight.

Wilder, backed by guys who have been involved with EVERY 100M fight since 2007, offers AJ 50M guaranteed and some of y'all TO THIS DAY maintain the offer was not real (TO THIS DAY!).

Even with journalists, industry insiders, rival promoters who say they SAW the offer, and the president of Showtime confirming the 50M was legit, some of you still don't believe it...TO THIS DAY!

BUT...

Anthony Joshua, who is notorious for putting his foot in his mouth, gets in front of a microphone- and while never mentioning a specific number- spouts some gibberish about doubling Wilder's biggest payday (as if that has ANYTHING to do with THIS FIGHT, which it doesn't), AND THAT YOU BELIEVE AS GOSPEL????????

The 28 million is folks ASSUMING, since AJ never said the number specifically.

And since AJ nor his promoter has ever been involved with a 100M fight, on what basis should anyone assume such an offer is legit?

We know there was a term sheet connected to Wilder's offer of 50M, so where is AJ's?

But, let's humor AJ and assume his running off at the mouth is actually something Hearn will back.

Is a flat fee of 28 million a good offer?

Could be, depending of what the fight does.

I will say right out that if it is for a fight in Britain, 28M is a very decent guarantee as long as a split is involved as AJ said it would be. If, on the other hand it is in Vegas, it may not be as good an offer.

But let's see that term sheet if it is a real offer.

And BTW, Wilder vs Fury II in Vegas MAY STILL be a better option for Wilder.

[DaNeutral.]

Its too late, Wilders game is up, him and Finkel pretty much admitted it. He is free to face Joshua, Joshua has a massive contract for him. Wilder said he wasnt interested in Joshua or the belts, Finkel said he wont be dictated to by Hearn by being sent an offer even though only 6 weeks ago he was instructing Hearn to send him serious offers.

The 50 million offer has been debunked. Hearn never demanded they clarify where the money was coming from but he did demand a contract, yeah what a diva that man is. Finkel wouldnt send any paperwork and refused to meet Hearn. Even Hearn says a set up like Haymons should have no problem coming up with 50 million. The issue was the refusals by Finkel to send a contract or discuss the offer.

Not that it matters about the 50 million anyway. Frank Warren let slip where the money was coming from and what a mess that would make. Hearn and Joshua washed their hands of that wierd tricky offer when Finkel played all wierd and secretive with it and decided it was best to keep this one on home turf. Risky going to robbery central USA.

[Fabes88]

I’m not saying it wasn’t real. What I am saying is them refusing to send over a contract or discuss the finer details doesn’t help. Especially when there’s rumours that bt sport and Frank Warren were involved which is obviously a no go given Joshua having an exsclusive deal with sky sports.

The negotiations continued beyond that point. Team Joshua countered that offer that were accepted but then rejected due there being no venue or date despite accepting those terms for fury that’s where the negotiations ended.

It wasn’t like aj said no to the 50mil and that was it. Had that of been the case then even I would call him a duck

[koolkc107]

The BT aspect is a straw many AJ fans cling to.

The truth is that BT had nothing to do with the 50M.
The truth is that airing a potential AJ fight on BT PPV would not necessarily be a violation of his Sky contract since Matchroom would not be promoting the fight if the 50M was accepted. It would be an American promoter with the rights to sell to whomever they wanted including Sky.

The 50M was offered, a term sheet was sent and Finkel and Wilder were absolutely right to refuse any meeting until the offer was accepted. What would they talk about?

You accept the offer then the negotiations begin.

And BTW, how can AJ fans keep a straight face about the term sheet not including some details when the the flat fee of 15 million sent by Hearn lacked details as well. That was an offer that was actually accepted, yet Hearn took weeks to respond to questions posed by Wilder and Finkel over date and venue. And by the time Hearn actually DID respond, he'd dragged in the WBA to give that fake deadline for the Povetkin mandatory.

They never intended to fight Wilder in September.

The lowball offer they never meant to be accepted and the WBA all of a sudden losing patience with a UNIFICATION WHERE A CONTRACT WAS IN PROCESS tells you everything you need to know.

[R_Walken]

Only AJ die hards still believe Hearn / AJ and co. Want this fight to happen before 2020

Hearn can have negotiations in public and AJ can make half Hearted statements that he wants the fight next but when you duck and dodge the fight for months in the summer even though being offered exactly what you’re on record saying the amount you want and basically already have a opponet lined up for his next fight it’s tough to believe anything AJ and his team say regarding anAJ / Wilder Fight

[Earl-Hickey]

The BT aspect is a straw many AJ fans cling to.

The truth is that BT had nothing to do with the 50M.
The truth is that airing a potential AJ fight on BT PPV would not necessarily be a violation of his Sky contract since Matchroom would not be promoting the fight if the 50M was accepted. It would be an American promoter with the rights to sell to whomever they wanted including Sky.

The 50M was offered, a term sheet was sent and Finkel and Wilder were absolutely right to refuse any meeting until the offer was accepted. What would they talk about?

You accept the offer then the negotiations begin.

And BTW, how can AJ fans keep a straight face about the term sheet not including some details when the the flat fee of 15 million sent by Hearn lacked details as well. That was an offer that was actually accepted, yet Hearn took weeks to respond to questions posed by Wilder and Finkel over date and venue. And by the time Hearn actually DID respond, he'd dragged in the WBA to give that fake deadline for the Povetkin mandatory.

They never intended to fight Wilder in September.

The lowball offer they never meant to be accepted and the WBA all of a sudden losing patience with a UNIFICATION WHERE A CONTRACT WAS IN PROCESS tells you everything you need to know.

If you think AJ'S biggest fight not being on Sky is "not an issue" I don't know what to tell you.

They have funded his entire career,

[aboutfkntime]

The BT aspect is a straw many AJ fans cling to.

The truth is that BT had nothing to do with the 50M.
The truth is that airing a potential AJ fight on BT PPV would not necessarily be a violation of his Sky contract since Matchroom would not be promoting the fight if the 50M was accepted. It would be an American promoter with the rights to sell to whomever they wanted including Sky.

The 50M was offered, a term sheet was sent and Finkel and Wilder were absolutely right to refuse any meeting until the offer was accepted. What would they talk about?

You accept the offer then the negotiations begin.

And BTW, how can AJ fans keep a straight face about the term sheet not including some details when the the flat fee of 15 million sent by Hearn lacked details as well. That was an offer that was actually accepted, yet Hearn took weeks to respond to questions posed by Wilder and Finkel over date and venue. And by the time Hearn actually DID respond, he'd dragged in the WBA to give that fake deadline for the Povetkin mandatory.

They never intended to fight Wilder in September.

The lowball offer they never meant to be accepted and the WBA all of a sudden losing patience with a UNIFICATION WHERE A CONTRACT WAS IN PROCESS tells you everything you need to know.

the wankers who deny the 50mil are just..... wankers

there is no justification whatsoever to dismiss that offer

and they know it

nor is there justification for Hearns 15mil offer

the 15mil offer that Wilder ACCEPTED !! LMAO

nor is there justification for Hearn refusing to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next

well, waddya know..... the team who will benefit most by deferring that fight..... are doing just that

#excusemakingmuppets

we saw that same wanker behaviour from the golov-muppets

and the *******s before them

surprise surprise, they are largely the same wankers

[koolkc107]

If you think AJ'S biggest fight not being on Sky is "not an issue" I don't know what to tell you.

They have funded his entire career,

It's clear that Sky would have been able to get the fight.

They would simply have to negotiate with Wilder's folks instead of the deal they already had in place with AJ.

Big fights are different from run of the mill ones. It's why Pac vs Floyd and AJ vs Wlad were aired the way they were aired.

[chrisJS]

Wilder fanboys are funny still crying about all this stuff to deflect from the fact he got exposed and will be losing again then they'll move on. They will either go to Miller or just talk about "who ducked who" years from now once it's further confirmed how **** he is by Fury.

[Phenom]

Not only that but they want to buy the US rights and PBC has a contract with CBS/Showtime and Fox Sports

Sound familiar?