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  • #61
    Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
    I said intentional or not first off.

    Secondly they cheated the system. Whether they used drugs or not we'll never know because they... Cheated... The... System.

    And these guys arent as ****** as they sound when they talk. They know they are on vada. Are they not professionals? I'm sure daddy Al made a nice donation to the wbc.
    Maybe he did...maybe he didn't. I just think it's a tad reckless to conclude anything given the limited information available. Are you cheating a system if you provide a sample within the designated timeframe after a missed test. Based on the list, missing tests isn't an uncommon thing.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
      Maybe he did...maybe he didn't. I just think it's a tad reckless to conclude anything given the limited information available. Are you cheating a system if you provide a sample within the designated timeframe after a missed test. Based on the list, missing tests isn't an uncommon thing.
      There is no time frame. It's a random test. The Cheatin Charlos pulled a fast one. DQ please.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
        There is no time frame. It's a random test. The Cheatin Charlos pulled a fast one. DQ please.
        Maybe you should be disappointed that VADA doesn't have collection provisions that address missed tests other than just pay us for our efforts.

        And so I'm clear. There should be a timeframe for submission of samples once a random visit is initiated. Like piss in a cup in front of a qualified collection agent within 24 hours of an attempt to collect.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
          Maybe you should be disappointed that VADA doesn't have collection provisions that address missed tests other than just pay us for our efforts.

          And so I'm clear. There should be a timeframe for submission of samples once a random visit is initiated. Like piss in a cup in front of a qualified collection agent within 24 hours of an attempt to collect.
          No it should be automatic dq. All the Cheatin Charlos would need is a few hours to clear their system of their turbo juice. They're not ****** they know vada is like house arrest. Professionals shouldnt be able to say whoopsie, we forgots...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
            No it should be automatic dq. All the Cheatin Charlos would need is a few hours to clear their system of their turbo juice. They're not ****** they know vada is like house arrest. Professionals shouldnt be able to say whoopsie, we forgots...
            I know you're not a scientist. But what "turbo juice" is on the VADA banned substance list that can be metabolized in a few hours? You want an automatic DQ for a missed test when a missed test can result from a multitude of legitimate reasons? Your approach seems biased.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
              I know you're not a scientist. But what "turbo juice" is on the VADA banned substance list that can be metabolized in a few hours? You want an automatic DQ for a missed test when a missed test can result from a multitude of legitimate reasons? Your approach seems biased.
              You sure you're not biased? Seem like a lawyer protecting his guilty client by ignoring evidence. Here's something for you to enjoy:

              “I said it before, but at the same time, you’re too professional, you have too much money to be making mistakes like that. You been in the game too long to make this mistake. " Jermall Charlo

              VADA POLICY
              1. Athlete Responsibilities:
              a. Up-to-date whereabouts information must be provided by the
              Athlete upon acceptance of his/her application by VADA.
              b. The Athlete must provide the date and location of any scheduled
              fights / competitions.
              c. The Athlete must provide a complete mailing address where
              correspondence and notices involving anti-doping matters can be
              forwarded to the Athlete.
              d. The Athlete must provide an email address checked regularly by
              the Athlete where notices and other information can be sent to
              the Athlete. Notice to an Athlete shall be considered properly
              effected if mailed to the mailing address and/or email address
              provided by the Athlete.
              e. The Athlete must provide his/her primary phone number.
              f. The Athlete must provide any specific details regarding any
              disability that may affect the procedures to be followed during the
              sample collection process.
              g. The Athlete understands and consents that his/her whereabouts
              information may be shared with any persons/companies acting as
              a Doping Control Officer (DCO) to collect the specimens (e.g.
              Clearidium).
              h. For each day leading up to the Athlete’s competition, he/she must
              provide VADA with his/her full residence and training addresses,
              any temporary addresses, and a detailed schedule including any
              regular activities (e.g. work, school, etc.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
                You sure you're not biased? Seem like a lawyer protecting his guilty client by ignoring evidence. Here's something for you to enjoy:

                “I said it before, but at the same time, you’re too professional, you have too much money to be making mistakes like that. You been in the game too long to make this mistake. " Jermall Charlo

                VADA POLICY
                1. Athlete Responsibilities:
                a. Up-to-date whereabouts information must be provided by the
                Athlete upon acceptance of his/her application by VADA.
                b. The Athlete must provide the date and location of any scheduled
                fights / competitions.
                c. The Athlete must provide a complete mailing address where
                correspondence and notices involving anti-doping matters can be
                forwarded to the Athlete.
                d. The Athlete must provide an email address checked regularly by
                the Athlete where notices and other information can be sent to
                the Athlete. Notice to an Athlete shall be considered properly
                effected if mailed to the mailing address and/or email address
                provided by the Athlete.
                e. The Athlete must provide his/her primary phone number.
                f. The Athlete must provide any specific details regarding any
                disability that may affect the procedures to be followed during the
                sample collection process.
                g. The Athlete understands and consents that his/her whereabouts
                information may be shared with any persons/companies acting as
                a Doping Control Officer (DCO) to collect the specimens (e.g.
                Clearidium).
                h. For each day leading up to the Athlete’s competition, he/she must
                provide VADA with his/her full residence and training addresses,
                any temporary addresses, and a detailed schedule including any
                regular activities (e.g. work, school, etc.
                And they can miss 2 test. They miss a 3rd and they're out of the program. Dont forget to mention that after a miss test they have to provide VADA with info as to why they missed a test. Fighters not just the Charlos have missed VADA tests before, but people are just making a big deal because its the Charlos, what about the other fighter who missed a test the same time frame as the Charlos?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by filup79 View Post
                  And they can miss 2 test. They miss a 3rd and they're out of the program. Dont forget to mention that after a miss test they have to provide VADA with info as to why they missed a test. Fighters not just the Charlos have missed VADA tests before, but people are just making a big deal because its the Charlos, what about the other fighter who missed a test the same time frame as the Charlos?
                  That's like saying you're allowed two crimes before going away for life. Not true, you can go away for life the first time depending on the judges determination. Same with vada. They will determine his guilt which should be easy to prove. How did they not know? It's their million dollar career for God's sake. No doubt daddy Al is gonna grease the wheels for the Cheatin Charlos.
                  Last edited by BeLikeWater; 12-21-2018, 01:59 PM.

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                  • #69
                    I find it funny how Hauser who was an HBO writer and also does articles for Oscar at Ring, how he always rights articles attacking Haymon and PBC fighters. He gets into details about PBC fighters testing without any of them failing a test but somehow he never really digged up anything or attacked Canelo for failing 2 test. Hauser never wrote up anything as why Manny wouldn't agree to testing back then either. Yet a PBC fighter misses a test and he's quick to write articles about it. I like how he gives Canelo a pass, Hauser never went into detail trying to really investigate and attack Canelos failed tests.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BeLikeWater View Post
                      That's like saying you're allowed two crimes before going away for life. Not true, you can go away for life the first time depending on the judges determination. Same with vada. They will determine his guilt which should be easy to prove. How did they not know? It's their million dollar career for God's sake. No doubt daddy Al is gonna grease the wheels.
                      How did they not know what? That they were getting tested that day? Are people too ****** to realise what random means? Random means any day, any time without the fighter knowing they're getting tested. VADA doesn't schedule an appointment a week in advance so the Charlos know they are getting tested on a certain date and time. The Charlos failed to notify VADA they were going out of town.

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