Comments Thread For: Korobov: I'm Clean; Not Worried About Charlo's Missed VADA Test

[Slowhand]

There is some good data used but also some sloppy use of conjecture in that article which is typical of Hauser. For instance, what are examples of what and how substances that can be used over 10 weeks before a fight to obtain benefits during the fight. What substances cause gyno and how would that substance benefit a certain fighter based on his style.

Trust me, I'm an advocate for clean fighters. However where is the point where we we say the likelihood of cheating has been minimized such that it's hard to be enhanced over say 10% of your natural abilities on fight night and that say 10% is an acceptable margin.

Acceptable margin? You might want to rethink that. On the highest world level 1% can mean millions, injuries, belts, career.. acceptable margin would be zero.

[#1Assassin]

I love how people just assume he is juicing. One ****** even said there is "no doubt". How about the complete lack of concrete evidence?

Yes, it is very su****ious. But su****ious isn't proof.

Could just be a matter of Charlo being unprofessional and ******. He's certainly ******, how am i speaking my third language better than he speaks his first?

That said, he is obliged to let them know of his whereabouts. As someone who hates letting people know of my whereabouts and has my phone switched off or at home most of the time, I can certainly see another reason besides juicing. But it is unprofessional on their part, im not enrolled in VADA.

He should have been more than fined.

[Clegg]

The biggest concern for me is that after the missed test, they didn't manage to test him until a week later. Whether he's clean or not, if he didn't make himself available for so long he should've been banned, and if VADA simply didn't find the time to get back to him for a whole week then wtf level of testing is that.

[apollocreed]

There is some good data used but also some sloppy use of conjecture in that article which is typical of Hauser. For instance, what are examples of what and how substances that can be used over 10 weeks before a fight to obtain benefits during the fight. What substances cause gyno and how would that substance benefit a certain fighter based on his style.

Trust me, I'm an advocate for clean fighters. However where is the point where we we say the likelihood of cheating has been minimized such that it's hard to be enhanced over say 10% of your natural abilities on fight night and that say 10% is an acceptable margin.

10% is an acceptable margin? What the ****? No it isn't. That will make a big difference to the performance of an elite athlete in a sporting contest.
If you told a doper in any sport that they would get an extra 10%, they would ****ing jump at it.

[apollocreed]

Acceptable margin? You might want to rethink that. On the highest world level 1% can mean millions, injuries, belts, career.. acceptable margin would be zero.

Exactly, I just said the same thing. 10% is acceptable?? ****ing ridiculous thing to say. For someone who is prepared to dope in the first place, 1% is a worthwhile advantage.

[James Hunt]

So you think the Charlos have VADA Collectors saved in their contacts. Also, if the tests are random, how did they know that they were coming such that they would disappear. Lastly, throwing microdosing out there out of context is poor reporting. For example, if a substance leaves the system in less than 24 hours, how effective is it that it's on the banned list?

http://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-art...ic-commissions

[Bjl12]

Didn't they say they were out of town though? And wasn't Armstrong adding EPO into his blood right before racing? How would microdosing help a boxer during training camp if the substance metabolizes within 24 hours.

The point I was making wasnt about EPO or Lance Armstrong. It's about how complex and DELIBERATE cheating can be. So something as simple as "hey, I was out of town - sorry" is not harmless when it comes to PEDs which is demonstrated by one of the greatest dopers...possibly ever. As Lance literally used that exact same excuse to avoid testing when he'd pop dirty.

Think about it. I'm not saying either Charlo is guilty, but both Charlos and Errol are very suspect for me and they conveniently miss a drug test despite the fact they were contractually bound to meet those (random) appointments.

[PBR Streetgang]

When did the Charlo brothers become this angry at the world? When they were first coming up I don't remember all this anger. I didn't hear much from them ever. Despite being twin brothers you didn't really hear alot from them or about them. Allsudden they are screaming and cursing at the world anytime a microphone is in their face.

Did they become angry at something specific or did they just realize it heightened their profile and marketability? If that's the case then this anger and such is just an act?

[Ake-Dawg]

Acceptable margin? You might want to rethink that. On the highest world level 1% can mean millions, injuries, belts, career.. acceptable margin would be zero.

Provided that there are margins for naturally occurring chemicals in the body, I'd say one fighter could be 1% enhanced and still have acceptable levels of testosterone.

[BeLikeWater]

Defending or asking deeper questions before jumping to conclusions? A lot of people want to know how a fighter plans to be out of town the day of a random sample is supposed to be taken. If it's random, how would they know when to be gone.

Now maybe they were home and lied. If so, that could easily be determined. I just want the conspiracy theorist to put together a solid logic string as to why this is indicative of the Charlos cheating.

Because they skipped a random drug test they signed up for? Invalidated the entire vada process for this fight. Cancel the fight.