Deontay Wilder "Anthony Joshua You Can Keep Your Belts"

[EnglishOxide]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ns#Heavyweight

Wikipedia says Wladimir was lineal.

You checkmated yourself bruh.

Not really. I referred you to the definition of lineal championship on Wikipedia. And it reads the following:

In combat sports where champions are decided by a challenge, the lineal championship of a weight class is a world championship title held initially by an undisputed champion and subsequently by a fighter who defeats the reigning champion in a match at that weight class.

It's not my fault that Wiki has contradicted itself.

Wlad never held the WBC title. You've previously claimed the WBC was the more important and most prestigious title. If it was, why aren't you referring to Wilder as the lineal champion!? To be lineal champion surely you must have won this title.

The lineal title is completely fictitious and can never be used as a selling point.

You just claimed Wilder v Fury is a unification, you've totally jumped the gun and embarrassed yourself as simply the paid Al Haymon shill or unhinged Wilder fanboy that you are.

You're working overtime today trying to put out all these fires and spin Wilder ducking Joshua.

[DaaamnSon]

The world didn't decide nothing. You're making things up to suit your agenda.

After Marciano retired Patterson had to become UNDISPUTED to become linear. True or false?

The same has to happen after Lennox's retirement. Lennox was the end of that lineage.

Look up lineage on Wikipedia and it will tell you that to be linear champion you must be undisputed champion.

Wlad was never undisputed because he never held the WBC. He only held the other 3 belts.

Or are you going to say that Wikipedia is wrong?

An exception was made for the Klitschkos because Vitali held the WBC belt and was never going to fight his brother under any circumstances so The Ring magazine decided to award Wladmir (IBF and WBO champion) the lineal title simultaneously with their title after he beat Ruslan Chagaev the number three ranked heavyweight and the WBA heavyweight champion in recess.

[EnglishOxide]

An exception was made for the Klitschkos because Vitali held the WBC belt and was never going to fight his brother under any circumstances so The Ring magazine decided to award Wladmir the lineal title simultaneously with their title after he beat Ruslan Chagaev the number three ranked heavyweight and the WBA heavyweight champion in recess.

I seem to recall most people picking Vitali as the better brother. He was the one who almost beat Lennox and looked most dominant until retirement.

Surely he should be lineal?

WBCWBAIBF doesn't recognise Ring rankings so there is no way he should acknowledge Fury/Wilder as linear vs WBC champion.

I guess it all hinges on how you determine the linear champion when the chain breaks. You either go with The Ring, 'the man' or wait for an undisputed champion.

This is why it's a fictitious title and shouldn't be taken seriously.

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You can't unify one title. Stop this rubbish.

If the lineal title is meaningless to you, more power to ya. It means a lot to a lot of people.

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The lineal title is completely fictitious and can never be used as a selling point.

Apparently you're unaware of the massive payday Spinks got to sell the lineal title to Tyson.

[DaaamnSon]

Apparently you're unaware of the massive payday Spinks got to sell the lineal title to Tyson.

To be fair the lineal title had a lot more prestige back then. That particular lineage traces it's origins all the way back to 1959 when Floyd Patterson started it. You only have to look at the names that passed through that lineage to see why it was so valuable to Mike Tyson.

[N/A]

To be fair the lineal title had a lot more prestige back then. That particular lineage traces it's origins all the way back to 1959 when Floyd Patterson started it. You only have to look at the names that passed through that lineage to see why it was so valuable to Mike Tyson.

Sure, and the longer the lineage remains unbroken, the more valuable it becomes. But these AJ fans acting like lineal is worthless probably weren't watching boxing before AJ came along. And if AJ happened to be lineal champion, they'd be acting like it's the most important thing ever.

If you want to look at value in the marketplace, the heavyweight title pecking order these days is WBC, IBF, Lineal, WBA Super, with WBA World and WBO about equal. Once upon a time, lineal would have been the most important. Now it's slid down the list due to there never being an undisputed champion after Lennox retired.

[Marchegiano]

Lolx.... You dimwit, you are back again. Lolx..
Do well to tell me who wilder was fighting at fight 22. Smiles, it's definitely an unranked club bouncer.

Get off your crack and be reasonable for once.

It's cute that you think this is an appropriate reaction that doesn't serve as evidence toward your own *****itude.


You're sick son. You need to see a doctor and get that pussitus cleared up. Must have caught it while hanging out with them Joshua lark.

[Marchegiano]

Get back on the short bus...and keep going !

That's not even halfway to a half decent joke. The **** are you doing? I am embarrassed for the both of us.

Gnashing gnarled teeth in slacked jaws while tenuously "reading" my words y'all usually do better than managing all the wit found in a brain damaged mongrel.

Usually.

[Chrismart]

I got bored with all the talk a while back.

I figured there would be a Fury rematch anyway, so didn't think Wilder would face Joshua in April.

I've just took a step back from reading all the interviews etc, I'll pick it all up again when they sign to fight.