Deontay Wilder "Anthony Joshua You Can Keep Your Belts"

[SeGoodland]

Not a bad example, but not who I was thinking of. Fury went 2 1/2 years before a defense, but Jack Dempsey went over three years between defenses.




And you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I personally never recognized Wladimir as lineal champion and therefore didn't recognize Fury. But you or I don't get to decide. Lineal is determined by a consensus. The consensus is that Fury is the lineal champion. Every article pretty much refers to him as such, the general boxing public thinks of him as such. He is the man that beat Wladimir. So he has Wladimir's lineage whether you or I like it.

If Joshua and Wilder had fought during Fury's absence, and the public had considered the winner the lineal champion, when Fury returned, he would have had a harder time regaining recognition as lineal champion.

But since #1 refused to fight #2 during Fury's absence, it was easier for the public to accept him as still being lineal champion.

I never thought I'd say this but this is correct.

[hugh grant]

Wilder showing off and bloating now because he's finally fought a big name in boxing. He can live off the fact he's fought Tyson and put him down.

[*Makaveli*]

But One face, One Name, One Champ.... Apparently!

This guy is a joke.. he’s been crying for a unification for years and he even gave names to the belts AJ has said they will soon be sister wives to Sophia the WBC belt.

Wilder now says he’s gonna faze AJ out as he doesn’t need him or his belts.

Where you pulling this from , cant see anything on the newsreels . Care to post some links and quotes

[champion4ever]

Ok, let Deontay Wilder crack on and defend his WBC against his mandatories. I'm fine with that.

Lets have the #1 and #2 Heavyweight battle it out. Joshua v Fury. The unified HW Champ v The REAL WBC Champ.

Watch how Wilder fades into the background but attempts to remain relevant by shouting 'BOMB SQUAD' a few times on camera.

You have to understand that your country is very small. Great Britain is only about a fifth of the size of the U.S. We all know that all roads lead to America. We are a global super power and the mecca of boxing.

If Anthony Joshua wants to be known as a global super star like Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather; Then inevitably he will have to fight in the states in order to help boost his profile.

So let Fury and Joshua fight in England they are going to be very hard to find globally and outside of the U.K. Because that fight is regional and local. The world won't miss or notice them or even recognize them for that matter; Outside of boxing fans.

[SeGoodland]

You have to understand that your country is very small. Great Britain is only about a fifth of the size of the U.S. We all know that all roads lead to America. We are a global super power and the mecca of boxing.

If Anthony Joshua wants to be known as a global super star like Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather; Then inevitably he will have to fight in the states in order to help boost his profile.

So let Fury and Joshua fight in England they are going to be very hard to find globally and outside of the U.K. Because that fight is regional and local. The world won't miss or notice them or even recognize them for that matter; Outside of boxing fans.

Yes, it is very small relative to the US. Yet we hold 3 of the top 4 HW's in the World, so if America is the Mecca of boxing, the UK is pissing all over that right now. I do agree that Joshua should fight in America, not that he has to though, he is in the position where he can do what he wants. Wilder and Fury have both needed to fight abroad in order to win some face time.

The problem with America, having travelled there extensively, is that it is far too insular. It has the biggest inferiority complex in history so it doesn't matter what kind of facts are put out there, American's believe, at a genetic level, that nothing is better than the good old US of A. That just demonstrates the poor level of intelligence of the general population.

Its a bit silly to use Mayweather as an example of a boxer that needs to go to America to increase his profile when he IS American Anyway, Mayweather is GONE. Canelo is the new Mexican face of American Boxing and even he has now jumped ship and has signed with a British company, DAZN

Pacquiao is a good example of how someone can come to America and make good. The Philippines isn't exactly an economic powerhouse but 34th isn't too bad i guess. If Pacquiao's career was just starting again, I would wager that he would either be at Matchroom or Queensberry because nowadays, they can both offer huge money.

Joshua v Fury will be a massive fight. American boxing fans will watch it, but who cares about US fans anymore. You look at recent fights, lets say after Wilder turned pro, so 2008 onwards, ranked by PPV sales...the top 5...

1. Mayweather v Pacquiao (2015)
2. Mayweather v Canelo (2013)
3. Mayweather v Mosely (2010)
4. Joshua v Klitschko (2017)
5. Joshua v Parker (2018)

Notice that Wilder is nowhere to be seen. In fact, no American HW is anywhere to be seen Mayweather is gone. Pacquiao hasn't sold more than 400,000 PPV buys since the shambolic fight against Mayweather. Canelo has become the face of American boxing but signed for DAZN, a British company...and there he is...Anthony Joshua. THE BIGGEST DRAW in Heavyweight boxing. Both fights were in the UK.

Wilder v Fury did what, 300k buys in the US? What did it do in the UK?

Face it chum...America's Heavyweight boxing scene is dying, if not dead. You sir, have been smashed.

[NahMean]

Where you pulling this from , cant see anything on the newsreels . Care to post some links and quotes

He said it on the Thaboxingvoice podcast. His words wore exactly "Joshua can keep his belts'

[*Makaveli*]

He said it on the Thaboxingvoice podcast. His words wore exactly "Joshua can keep his belts'

Dissapointing if true . The 2 of them owe the boxing world this fight . Theres no way either of them can chicken out without destroying their reputation for ever

[champion4ever]

In other words he is a woman.

Has any other boxer in history acted like such a feminine B side b.tch?

I don't know him. Therefore, I can't judge his heart. However, I can say this. You will never know how you would behave if you were under a similar amount of pressure. You just may find out that you are not as brave as you appear.

[champion4ever]

Yes, it is very small relative to the US. Yet we hold 3 of the top 4 HW's in the World, so if America is the Mecca of boxing, the UK is pissing all over that right now. I do agree that Joshua should fight in America, not that he has to though, he is in the position where he can do what he wants. Wilder and Fury have both needed to fight abroad in order to win some face time.

The problem with America, having travelled there extensively, is that it is far too insular. It has the biggest inferiority complex in history so it doesn't matter what kind of facts are put out there, American's believe, at a genetic level, that nothing is better than the good old US of A. That just demonstrates the poor level of intelligence of the general population.

Its a bit silly to use Mayweather as an example of a boxer that needs to go to America to increase his profile when he IS American Anyway, Mayweather is GONE. Canelo is the new Mexican face of American Boxing and even he has now jumped ship and has signed with a British company, DAZN

Pacquiao is a good example of how someone can come to America and make good. The Philippines isn't exactly an economic powerhouse but 34th isn't too bad i guess. If Pacquiao's career was just starting again, I would wager that he would either be at Matchroom or Queensberry because nowadays, they can both offer huge money.

Joshua v Fury will be a massive fight. American boxing fans will watch it, but who cares about US fans anymore. You look at recent fights, lets say after Wilder turned pro, so 2008 onwards, ranked by PPV sales...the top 5...

1. Mayweather v Pacquiao (2015)
2. Mayweather v Canelo (2013)
3. Mayweather v Mosely (2010)
4. Joshua v Klitschko (2017)
5. Joshua v Parker (2018)

Notice that Wilder is nowhere to be seen. In fact, no American HW is anywhere to be seen Mayweather is gone. Pacquiao hasn't sold more than 400,000 PPV buys since the shambolic fight against Mayweather. Canelo has become the face of American boxing but signed for DAZN, a British company...and there he is...Anthony Joshua. THE BIGGEST DRAW in Heavyweight boxing. Both fights were in the UK.

Wilder v Fury did what, 300k buys in the US? What did it do in the UK?

Face it chum...America's Heavyweight boxing scene is dying, if not dead. You sir, have been smashed.

The fact is no one gives a shit about boxing globally anymore and that's a fact. The U.K. Is the only place in the world where boxing is still popular.

Outside of Great Britain boxing has declined since the Fall of the American heavyweight boxer because most of them are all either playing other sports like Basketball or American football. Let's just face some facts and the truth.

Your country will never produce a super star like a Money Mayweather type of fighter because it's too small. Your revenue from boxing is only about a fourth of what it generates in the states; That's including your live gate and pay per view.

If American promoters were to slice their prices like British promoters do we will have sell out crowds everywhere but no we won't because Matchroom Boxing USA is shot to shit in America with all of its emptied seated arenas.

[eco1]

Yes it is, but it's been the most respected title in all of sports since the 1800s. Boxing was built on made up imaginary titles. The sanctioning bodies didn't gain a foot hold until the 1960s when TV networks wanted official sounding titles.




If that's how you viewed things, good for you. To the US viewing public, they saw an all time great heavyweight battle, the buzz in the aftermath was off the charts, and the PPV industry believes a rematch can do over 600,000 buys.

So Wilder and Fury will be making massive pay days, whether you choose to be a hater or not.

I guess your avatar doesn't mean s h I t