Deontay Wilder "Anthony Joshua You Can Keep Your Belts"

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  • DaaamnSon
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    #21
    Originally posted by EnglishOxide
    You don't consider Wlad the lineal champion but you have no problem talking about the WBC Heavyweight Championship vs the Lineal Heavyweight Championship in regards to Wilder v Fury.

    Which is it. If Fury is 'the man' then fine. If he's the lineal champion then you need to acknowledge Wlad as the lineal champion.

    linear meaning: a direct line of descent or ancestry

    You should be able to show us that line of descent.
    He "personally" didn't consider Wlad the lineal champion but after Wlad defeated Chagaev The Ring awarded him the lineal title as well as theirs. Therefore Wlad started a new lineage as the lineal heavyweight title despite at that time having only the IBF and WBO belts.

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      #22
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Yes it is, but it's been the most respected title in all of sports since the 1800s. Boxing was built on made up imaginary titles. The sanctioning bodies didn't gain a foot hold until the 1960s when TV networks wanted official sounding titles.




      If that's how you viewed things, good for you. To the US viewing public, they saw an all time great heavyweight battle, the buzz in the aftermath was off the charts, and the PPV industry believes a rematch can do over 600,000 buys.

      So Wilder and Fury will be making massive pay days, whether you choose to be a hater or not.

      Unfortunately for you we do have set standards in place NOW! Lineal isn't a title period! Back in the day the belt hasn't had as many successors through the years and now will are here 2018 and as a few have pointed out the WBA has more lineage than the WBC OR a fictacious LABEL bc In FACT the best and more important HW is the actual one unifying and beating the most guys at the top....simpleton!

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      • DaaamnSon
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        #23
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        The world decided Wladimir was lineal and the world decided Fury is lineal.

        Just because I would have decided differently if I were the emperor of earth doesn't change the decision that was made. It wasn't my decision or your decision to make. It was the world's decision. The world decided Wladimir was lineal and Fury beat him to become lineal.
        It was actually The Ring magazine that decided to start a new heavyweight lineage after he defeated Ruslan Chagaev in 2009. Up until that point the "lineal heavyweight championship" was vacant.

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          #24
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Unfortunately for you we do have set standards in place NOW!
          Unfortunately for me? Why would it affect my life at all?

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            #25
            Originally posted by DaaamnSon
            It was actually The Ring magazine that decided to start a new heavyweight lineage after he defeated Ruslan Chagaev in 2009. Up until that point the "lineal heavyweight championship" was vacant.
            Ring and lineal are two completely different things. For instance, Vitali was Ring champion, but never lineal champion.

            Ring stopped awards titles for decades, but the lineal title never went away. Ring & Lineal may have been thought of one and the same a million years ago, but not any more. Ring gladly admits now that their title and the lineal title are two completely different things.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Just as many ringside experts had a draw as had Fury winning. Not to mention the experts that had Wilder winning. Hard to say Fury "deserved" the title when the fight was so close and he got knocked down twice. Try to show some objectivity. Hard to cry robbery about a draw when a draw was such a common score on press row.
              Lets be real, Fury deserved that title man. I'm being as objective as I can, he schooled Wilder. Aside from the two knockdown rounds, both in which after being knocked down Fury rallied, there were only 2 other rounds I could give Wilder. Those early rounds were close and you could go either way with a couple of them but there is no way Wilder won the first 4-5 rounds like on that one judge's card. Perhaps i'll look up press row scores, but the majority of the articles and remarks I've seen had Fury winning. I'm not going crazy like I've seen a lot of people saying Fury won every round outside of the two he got knocked down in, but Fury definitely won that fight

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                #27
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                And he finally got someone to agree to unify with him. And the fight ended in a draw. So now he wants a rematch. What's the problem? The WBC world championship and the lineal world championship are the two most respected titles in boxing. Why would he run away from the lineal champion now after a controversial draw? For his own legacy, he must give Fury an immediate rematch and continue his quest to knock him out.
                Ha ha ha ha ha ha

                Quack

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano
                  Joshua's father is a failure, he ain't no man.


                  Hide when the time's right, talk **** when the distance is safe....oooo...

                  Joshua is a ***** along with any little gnome's pizzle that cosigns his girly bull****.
                  this is exactly whats going on!!!!!!!!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                    Lets be real, Fury deserved that title man. I'm being as objective as I can, he schooled Wilder. Aside from the two knockdown rounds, both in which after being knocked down Fury rallied, there were only 2 other rounds I could give Wilder.
                    You only have to give Wilder one more round and it's a draw. So you can't cry robbery if someone gives him one more round than you.

                    Fury only landed one more punch per round. That's not a very strong schooling.

                    I think a lot of people got caught up in the hype of Fury doing better than they expected. It was an amazing performance, but he ran a lot, didn't sit down on his shots, and got knocked down twice. A draw wasn't unreasonable.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Unfortunately for me? Why would it affect my life at all?
                      Because you pride yourself trying to convince everyone your some boxing guru , yet you admit your no boxing fan , work in the industry and know muc more then everyone daily.

                      The truth is your an idiot and anyone who thinks you know about much beyond WBC rules is a bigger idiot !

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