Wilder: No matter what Hearn offers, I’m fighting Fury next

[Froch_uppercut]

Still with the "Joshua was offered 50 Million" crap! This phrase is only used by people trying to win an argument... does it matter?
Yes, Joshua was dumb to say it and leave himself vulnerable but on the other hand, a fighter offering 50 Mil another in an email with his management refusing to meet or answer any questions about it, is far from credible... especially as it's come to light that it would have conflicted with AJ's contractual obligations. Hmmm, i'll bet if Wilder's team didn't realize when they made the offer (this is Sarcasm!). Oh and Wilder still didn't sign a contract either.
Strangely enough though, you are right about Wilder fighting Fury for more money when AJ's mandatory was called (which isn't the the same as "Joshua turning down Wilder to fight someone else for LESS money = duck"); and who could blame him? At the time Fury was an unknown quantity and was expected by many to be KO'd by Wilder, so to be offered a good payday in that situation is a 'no brainer'.

It's an interesting observation in human psychology all these Wilder fans not able to admit or even see how obvious it is their guy wants absolutely nothing to do with Joshua. He even says it himself, but nope, hes not the one ducking.

Madness

[kafkod]

Good news. Fury won that fight and Wilder owes him a rematch.

Just listened to an interview with Ben Davison saying his choice would be for AJ and Wilder to fight each other next, then Tyson can fight the winner.

I agree with him on that because it makes sense on all levels. AJ and Wilder can settle their beef in the ring and unify all 4 belts. Meanwhile, Tyson can carry on his rehabilitation then fight the winner at 100% fitness.

Realistically, it's going to take him longer than he's had so far to come back from where he was 12 months ago.

Here's the interview:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=801777

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Just listened to an interview with Ben Davison saying his choice would be for AJ and Wilder to fight each other next, then Tyson can fight the winner.

I agree with him on that because it makes sense on all levels. AJ and Wilder can settle their beef in the ring and unify all 4 belts. Meanwhile, Tyson can carry on his rehabilitation then fight the winner at 100% fitness.

Realistically, it's going to take him longer than he's had so far to come back from where he was 12 months ago.

Here's the interview:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=801777

I don't give a *** about the alphabet titles tbh. I want Fury and Wilder to rematch because Fury deserves to officially have a W over Wilder on his record. Like Fury says, nobody will remember the robbery in the future, they'll just see it as a draw.

What happens if AJ & Wilder also fight to a draw, what happens to Fury then?

[Froch_uppercut]

Nonsense. Hearn publicly admitted he negotiated with Haymon and Finkel for weeks, they answered all of his questions, the deal was legit, but Joshua decided he'd rather take less money to fight at home. Which is fine. That's his right. But don't lie after the fact and pretend the 50 million wasn't real. Hearn and Joshua both admitted it was.

No contractual obligations would have conflicted. Finkel repeatedly stated the fight would go to Sky if they matched BT's offer, and Sky would have matched. That was never going to be an issue. The issue is Joshua didn't want to take the fight. Hearn admitted that himself.

You're allowed to be a fan of a fighter without having to pretend he was willing to fight Wilder in the US. He wasn't willing to. For any amount of money. Accept it.

Nonsense. Wilder's side have cryptic, complicated, ridiculous stories. Here are the facts. Joshua wants it and says so.
Wilder doesn't and says so.
You don't have to be a fu king detective to assess this situation

[ChrisCook]

Nonsense. Hearn publicly admitted he negotiated with Haymon and Finkel for weeks, they answered all of his questions, the deal was legit, but Joshua decided he'd rather take less money to fight at home. Which is fine. That's his right. But don't lie after the fact and pretend the 50 million wasn't real. Hearn and Joshua both admitted it was.

No contractual obligations would have conflicted. Finkel repeatedly stated the fight would go to Sky if they matched BT's offer, and Sky would have matched. That was never going to be an issue. The issue is Joshua didn't want to take the fight. Hearn admitted that himself.

You're allowed to be a fan of a fighter without having to pretend he was willing to fight Wilder in the US. He wasn't willing to. For any amount of money. Accept it.

Despite your alleged pretense, I'm allowed to be a fan of a fighter without regard. You incorrectly assume that I'm fan of Joshua when the reality is a little different. In fact, after reading your obviously biased response, i'd also suggest that reality isn't something you're entirely familiar with... unless of course you would like to post links to the contradict my "lie" (I'm not really sure you understand the meaning of that word by the way, especially when you seem to use it to highlight a difference of opinion on a subject)?
I never said that the 50 Mil wasn't real, I rightly said it lacked credibility. After it was offered, Hearn was in NY and Wilder's team refused to speak or meet with him, do you argue this point? If so, a 30 second search yielded a counter arguement: -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19u4vbObti0

Regarding the BT sport issue, I'm pretty sure that the 'facts' you refer to came from Frank Warren - an extremely bitter competitor to Matchroom, who by total coincidence happened to be putting together a fight with Wilder and his fighter, Fury (sarcasm again, it probably wasn't a coincidence). Whether you believe Hearn or Finkel is up to you, as you are allowed believe what you want... see what I did there?
Furthermore, as you appear to be someone that is easily influenced (you'll note that I didn't use the work lair at all there as that would have been a misrepresentation - i'm trying t help you learn the correct word placement in its associated context!), I would recommend caution in believing 100% of what promoters and managers say because in the boxing industry they've been know to be misleading.

[Laligalaliga]

***** is scared as hell.
He prefers the soft punches than take risk to be undisputed.

After 2019, we will see who runs come begging.

[ChrisCook]

Nonsense. Wilder's side have cryptic, complicated, ridiculous stories. Here are the facts. Joshua wants it and says so.
Wilder doesn't and says so.
You don't have to be a fu king detective to assess this situation

It's crazy. I've lived and worked in the US and generally love the place and people but in my time there, I've never encountered such blissful ignorance as I have on this forum.

[Laligalaliga]

Joshua ducking is what made Wilder give up on move on with his life.

Kudos to Wilder for not chasing Joshua forever. Once Wilder and Fury finish their rivalry, which seems destined to be a trilogy, the winner of the feud will be in a great position to demand 50/50 or damn close to it for a fight with Joshua.

In the mean time, there's nobody Joshua can fight that will capture the world's imagination in the way Wilder and Fury can for the rematch, and a potential third fight.

Lolx.... You guys are so myopic in your views.
You sound like wilder/fury will not end. So what if after wilder/fury, wilder comes out victorious and wants the undisputed and AJ refuse to fight him then or low ball him, I wouldn't blame him either.

After fury dance, wilder cannot command big money fight again, we all know this.

[ChrisCook]

***** is scared as hell.
He prefers the soft punches than take risk to be undisputed.

After 2019, we will see who runs come begging.

Well their resume's don't lie and do you really think any of them are truly scared? They aren't in the right profession if they are.

[ussy]

Wilder is not ******. If he beats fury he raises his stock and can get many more millions from Hearn and Co. Joshua and Hearn are offering the fight now because they know it makes no sense for Wilder to accept at this point.