Wilder: No matter what Hearn offers, I’m fighting Fury next

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  • Estar
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    #51
    This place is pathetic at times, the hoops that Wilder fans will go through. He is ducking AJ, no other way of saying it. D U C K I N G

    Always has and always will, he's done it his whole career. Finkle admitted he ducked Wlad as he wasn't ready after 30+ fights...

    Stop making excuses, you are just making yourselves look idiots defending Wilder at any cost.

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    • Szef
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      #52
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      HHAHAHSHAHAHAH

      I literally wrote what the scoring criteria is and which favored each fighter.

      If you need them spelled out in order, here you go:

      Effective Aggression (Wilder)
      Defense (Fury)
      Ring Generalship (Debatable)
      Clean and Hard Punching (Wilder)
      It's effective aggression, not just aggression. Lol at giving that to Wilder

      Ring Generalship is debatable now? Wilder fought Fury's fight, not the other way around. Now I know you're trolling lol.

      Clean and Hard Punching goes to Fury too. He was the one who out landed his opponent in almost every round.

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      • ChrisCook
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        #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Joshua was offered the 50 million he requested. Joshua turned down the fight.

        Wilder agreed to the flat fee of 15 million. Joshua turned down the fight.

        Wilder announces he's done chasing Joshua and is moving on with his life, and then suddenly Joshua wants to fight him. Very convenient. Wilder is tied up with Fury now. Will make more fighting Fury than he'd make fighting Joshua. Joshua will have to wait.

        Joshua turning down Wilder to fight someone else for LESS money = duck.

        Wilder turning down Joshua to fight someone else for MORE money isn't a duck.
        Still with the "Joshua was offered 50 Million" crap! This phrase is only used by people trying to win an argument... does it matter?
        Yes, Joshua was dumb to say it and leave himself vulnerable but on the other hand, a fighter offering 50 Mil another in an email with his management refusing to meet or answer any questions about it, is far from credible... especially as it's come to light that it would have conflicted with AJ's contractual obligations. Hmmm, i'll bet if Wilder's team didn't realize when they made the offer (this is Sarcasm!). Oh and Wilder still didn't sign a contract either.
        Strangely enough though, you are right about Wilder fighting Fury for more money when AJ's mandatory was called (which isn't the the same as "Joshua turning down Wilder to fight someone else for LESS money = duck"); and who could blame him? At the time Fury was an unknown quantity and was expected by many to be KO'd by Wilder, so to be offered a good payday in that situation is a 'no brainer'.

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          #54
          Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
          If this is the case the fight would have happened. Wilder received a contract for the fight for 15M which he didn't sign; therefore didn't agree to the fight.
          He agreed to a term sheet which stated the fight would take place in 2018. Then he was sent a contract that didn't state the fight would take place in 2018. When the discrepancy was pointed out to Hearn, Hearn promised to send a new contract by the end of the week with a 2018 date. When the end of the week arrived, Hearn informed Finkel he'd decided to fight Povetkin first and that the date would be in 2019.

          Feeling he was the victim of a bait and switch, Wilder was absolute irate and swore to never fight Joshua unless it was a 50/50 split. So far he's kept his word. He's on a mission to turn himself into a big enough draw to justify a 50/50 split. Good luck to him. If he can do it, great. If he can't, he can't.

          If he does over 600,000 US buys, plus another 600,000 UK buys in a Fury rematch, and knocks him out, he has a legitimate case for a 50/50 fight with Joshua. We'll see if he can do it.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Szef
            It's effective aggression, not just aggression. Lol at giving that to Wilder
            Fury wound up on his ass twice. Surely you're not claiming Fury's aggression was more effective?


            Ring Generalship is debatable now? Wilder fought Fury's fight, not the other way around. Now I know you're trolling lol.
            Judging is subjective and different judges prefer different things. I personally would consider Fury the ring general with his effective movement, others might say Wilder forced him to back up all night. All depends on what you're looking for.


            Clean and Hard Punching goes to Fury too. He was the one who out landed his opponent in almost every round.
            Out landed with pitty pat punches. The clean hard punches were coming from Wilder most of the time. Sitting at ringside is a lot different from watching on TV.

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              #56
              Originally posted by ChrisCook
              Yes, Joshua was dumb to say it and leave himself vulnerable but on the other hand, a fighter offering 50 Mil another in an email with his management refusing to meet or answer any questions about it, is far from credible... especially as it's come to light that it would have conflicted with AJ's contractual obligations.
              Nonsense. Hearn publicly admitted he negotiated with Haymon and Finkel for weeks, they answered all of his questions, the deal was legit, but Joshua decided he'd rather take less money to fight at home. Which is fine. That's his right. But don't lie after the fact and pretend the 50 million wasn't real. Hearn and Joshua both admitted it was.

              No contractual obligations would have conflicted. Finkel repeatedly stated the fight would go to Sky if they matched BT's offer, and Sky would have matched. That was never going to be an issue. The issue is Joshua didn't want to take the fight. Hearn admitted that himself.

              You're allowed to be a fan of a fighter without having to pretend he was willing to fight Wilder in the US. He wasn't willing to. For any amount of money. Accept it.

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              • chrisJS
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                #57
                Wilder is ducking but he does get credit for trying to avenge the exposing Fury did to him.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #58
                  anyone with sense knew this fight would, and should be next

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Joshua was offered the 50 million he requested. Joshua turned down the fight.

                    Wilder agreed to the flat fee of 15 million. Joshua turned down the fight.

                    Wilder announces he's done chasing Joshua and is moving on with his life, and then suddenly Joshua wants to fight him. Very convenient. Wilder is tied up with Fury now. Will make more fighting Fury than he'd make fighting Joshua. Joshua will have to wait.

                    Joshua turning down Wilder to fight someone else for LESS money = duck.

                    Wilder turning down Joshua to fight someone else for MORE money isn't a duck.
                    Keep telling yourself that's how things went down, you may end up actually believing it.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #60
                      To be honest the Fury rematch is a dangerous fight especially if Wilder is man enough to fight outside of U.S with that belt. I really have no issues with Fury and Wilder fighting again, It just proves no one was ducking Wilder, he basically didn't want that fight like he tried to claim from day 1. Hopefully we get to see Fury fight Wilder in the U.K. It should be a mega fight over here.

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