DAZN Numbers for Canelo/Fielding "Shockingly Low"

[KTFOKING]

That's not how it works there are NFL tickets that have hundreds of tickets left and don't sell the final them until the day of the game. Check concert tickets that happens all the time. your proof that the promoters lied saying the fight is close to sell out but we are positive the fight will sell out by fight night and when it happens you mad it didn't sell out 1 day earlier? Stop being ****** Keith either lied or reported a lie someone told him about 5K tickets unsold. Not a shred of evidence to prove it and a Ticketmaster that showed exactly a few hundred tickets left days before the fight just like the promoters and MSG said. Time to get off the ledge of the rumor about poor ticket sales Keith did a long time ago the fight sold out. Now you moving on to WWE guys who secretly got DAZN view numbers but can't tell us the numbers or how he got them just that they are very low. LMAO

So since Idec is a hack, which agenda is he pushing. Please explain that.

And no, if there were only 400-500 tickets left, they wouldn't last until Saturday. They just wouldn't, especially for a Canelo fight. If you want to say Idec was off on his 4-5k number, then cool. But fair to say in all likelihood there was definitely more than just 400-500 tickets left. As stated before, ticket sales for high priced fights move swiftly in the last few days. So for him to say on Thursday morning it wasn't close to a sellout, isn't him making stuff up.

A WWE guy that sure has some some good sources. A guy that was able to break down the Bellator deal better than anyone else and know the amount of subscribers the WWE had and what their target was. A guy that has the most accurate UFC PPV numbers. Nice attempt at trying to act like you knew who he was and what he did when you didn't even know what the WWE network was.

[Redd Foxx]

So if they say we close to selling out only a few hundred left if they don't sell in 10 mins that means there must be 5K left? It don't work like that there are tons of concerts and sport events where the remaining few hundred tickets don't sell until the day of the event. That ain't unusual. What is unusual is a hack saying they promoters are lying it's nowhere near a sell out then look ****** when Ticketmaster backs up the numbers and the fight sells out just like they said it would. Keith story never added up he was killed on online for starting that rumor and when asked refused to reveal his source instead argued with those clowning him saying tickets won't sell because the prices too high and it's a bad opponent. He was wrong and no reputable media outlet reported the tickets werent selling or that the fight wasn't on track to sell out. When one idiot is the only one reporting something that don't add up and refuses to give sources it's usually fake news.

I get it you have an agenda and keep peddling baseless rumors and now bring some wrestling reporter who you and nobody else has EVER used as a source for boxing numbers and pretending like he is credible when his speciality is ppv from the WWE. DAZN isn't wrestling and wasn't on PPV. This clown didn't even qualify what he considers low views didn't reveal how he got this private information that only DAZN knows. It's horse shyt. Wake me up when someone who actually follows and covers BOXING puts their names and reputation on the line with real numbers. Until then all we know for a fact is the download numbers and the attendance numbers which were all great numbers. But sure over 5 million went out there way to download DAZN just because of canelo but didn't actually go through and watch the fight which DAZN gave away for free? that really adds up because a fake wrestling blogger said so lol

Lol, you sound like you're having an emotional breakdown bro.

Meltzer generally knows his shyt. He's been doing MMA for many years now and WWE's current form essentially pioneered what DAZN is trying to do. I'm not a fan of the guy but if he actually said this stuff (which I'm not sure he did) it's likely got some truth behind it.

He has made his living doing this for years and he's not going to blow his rep to snub Canelo or whatever reason you think he has. The guy's connections in the sports entertainment industry are deep.

So, maybe the first fight flopped,why are you entirely bent out of shape? DAZN is at the beginning of a building process.

[bigdunny1]

So since Idec is a hack, which agenda is he pushing. Please explain that.

And no, if there were only 400-500 tickets left, they wouldn't last until Saturday. They just wouldn't, especially for a Canelo fight. If you want to say Idec was off on his 4-5k number, then cool. But fair to say in all likelihood there was definitely more than just 400-500 tickets left. As stated before, ticket sales for high priced fights move swiftly in the last few days. So for him to say on Thursday morning it wasn't close to a sellout, isn't him making stuff up.

A WWE guy that sure has some some good sources. A guy that was able to break down the Bellator deal better than anyone else and know the amount of subscribers the WWE had and what their target was. A guy that has the most accurate UFC PPV numbers. Nice attempt at trying to act like you knew who he was and what he did when you didn't even know what the WWE network was.

You repeating the same ****** premise don't make true so many events boxing included sell tons of tickets then hit a wall where the die hards who want to see that event already scooped up tickets early in advance while many wait until the last minute to buy it's called walk up ticket sales. It 1000% happens in huge concerts and sporting events. I have no clue what the true numbers were or if the promoters lied by a couple hundred tickets but I know damn well there wasn't 5K tickets unsold and Keith entire premise was the fight wasn't near sell out. it did sell out like the ones who actually know the numbers said. Keith either lied or was lied to amd spread the like that's a fact. Ticketmaster screen shots proved it and the sellout proved it. It's impossible to think that they were more then 1/4 tickets left and they sold that many a day and half before the fight. Where it is incredibly common to have a few hundred tickets left and sell them in the last day and half.

You can keep repeating how accurate you think he is in fake wrestling and UFC PPVs. lol But in boxing we have never heard of him used as source to report boxing numbers and this wasn't even PPV so the areas you keep mentioning are irrelevant this boxing match a sport he doesn't cover on a streaming service not PPV. Phuk out of here lol

[N/A]

No question. There is a reason Dana and Vince hate him. Dana especially gets heated at Meltzer when he releases the accurate PPV numbers.

There was definitely a time when Vince hated Dave, but that time has passed. Dave really isn't that plugged into the WWE office anymore and is largely irrelevant in Vince's eyes.

Dana on the other hand considers Dave to be a thorn in his side, just like Vince did in the 80s. The time and energy Dave used to devote to knowing Vince's business inside and out, and talking to all the major players in the office, that time and energy shifted towards UFC a long time ago.

UFC's PPV numbers are largely anemic and Dana doesn't like attention being drawn to that fact.

[N/A]

When a actual boxing insider puts his name on the line and quotes figures I'll sit up and take notice

Dave has been closely following boxing longer than you've been alive and stays in regular communication with many boxing insiders.

[bigdunny1]

Lol, you sound like you're having an emotional breakdown bro.

Meltzer generally knows his shyt. He's been doing MMA for many years now and WWE's current form essentially pioneered what DAZN is trying to do. I'm not a fan of the guy but if he actually said this stuff (which I'm not sure he did) it's likely got some truth behind it.

He has made his living doing this for years and he's not going to blow his rep to snub Canelo or whatever reason you think he has. The guy's connections in the sports entertainment industry are deep.

So, maybe the first fight flopped,why are you entirely bent out of shape? DAZN is at the beginning of a building process.

Netflix is a massive streaming company and they refuse to release numbers and with far more employees yet they keep their viewing data top secret and you have no leaks of the numbers yet you think DAZN who just started in the US has employees leaking their numbers which if true would be devasting for a new company in the US? No phuking way anyone at the DAZN is telling anyone the figures let alone some nobody from the WWE world. And unless you work for DAZN it's impossible to know how many views it got. That story doesn't add up and it doesn't match the amount who downloaded the public and verified numbers we have.

All we have is a third party tweet that says he said this in a interview but no info on how he got top secret numbers that DAZN has locked in a vault or what the actual number is just cryptic it's low with no context. If you can't smell bullshyt a mile away sorry I can.

[SHO_RULEZ]

Re

With that opponent, what do you expect?! Everyone knew Canelo was knocking that clown out!

[Bjl12]

This according to Dave Meltzer who pretty much is one of the best sources for PPV numbers for the UFC and WWE Network.

Meltzer on Observer Radio today: "DAZN will never release numbers, but the viewers for the Canelo fight were shockingly low. SHOCKINGLY. A lot of money is being spent on this stuff...and the number of subscribers they got is SO SAD".

— Fight Ghost (@Fight_Ghost) December 18, 2018

The one good thing about this IF true, it will likely lead to Canelo vs Jacobs if that wasn't already going to happen. DAZN will want to push for the big match ups ASAP and they will be needing Wilder/Joshua as well.

Either the plug will be pulled a lot sooner than we think or they're gonna step in and demand Canelo fight more interesting opponents. Should be interesting.

The thing is, it's a new venture stateside so it is definitely going to take a long and most people don’t even know what DAZN is. And the commercials were so damn awful they definitely didn't help this fight out. Instead of people watching the commercials and saying to themselves "Oh Canelo is fighting on the 15th," they were trashing it and never wanting to see it again.

But one thing is clear, there is NO way in hell Joshua/Povetkin did numbers close to what Joshua would do on SHO as Hearn proclaimed after the fight. That was some of the biggest BS he's ever said.

This is pure speculation off a guy who is basically saying the numbers might be low and Dazn won't release the numbers cus it might be low. All speculation. Try again.

Meltzer is about as legit as they come. He's the guru on UFC PPV numbers. He's definitely plugged in so I wouldn't just dismiss it..

The opponent definitely didn't help and the streaming service is new in America so folks still were probably unaware of how to watch the fight.

But elaborate on how they have been disrespecting other fighters. In their commercials or what?

The advertising was poor also. I'm thinking it was like that because it was a lackluster opponent.

Really hoping - no matter who it is in May - they promote tf out of it.

Canelo is not far from a Floyd in terms of popularity, but you still need to promote ffs...especially with this brand new platform

[KTFOKING]

You repeating the same ****** premise don't make true so many events boxing included sell tons of tickets then hit a wall where the die hards who want to see that event already scooped up tickets early in advance while many wait until the last minute to buy it's called walk up ticket sales. It 1000% happens in huge concerts and sporting events. I have no clue what the true numbers were or if the promoters lied by a couple hundred tickets but I know damn well there wasn't 5K tickets unsold and Keith entire premise was the fight wasn't near sell out. it did sell out like the ones who actually know the numbers said. Keith either lied or was lied to amd spread the like that's a fact. Ticketmaster screen shots proved it and the sellout proved it. It's impossible to think that they were more then 1/4 tickets left and they sold that many a day and half before the fight. Where it is incredibly common to have a few hundred tickets left and sell them in the last day and half.

You can keep repeating how accurate you think he is in fake wrestling and UFC PPVs. lol But in boxing we have never heard of him used as source to report boxing numbers and this wasn't even PPV so the areas you keep mentioning are irrelevant this boxing match a sport he doesn't cover on a streaming service not PPV. Phuk out of here lol

So you don't know how many tickets were available but are quick to say Keith was lying? Huh? Could Keith have been lied to? Possible, but what agenda does he have to lie here?

And you keep discounting Meltzer by saying you prefer to hear it from a boxing insider yet when a boxing insider in Idec reports the ticket sales, you say he has an agenda he is pushing. So what is it? Why would you prefer to hear this from a boxing insider over Meltzer? What is the difference here? I mean not like you trust what all boxing insiders say anyways.

[KTFOKING]

There was definitely a time when Vince hated Dave, but that time has passed. Dave really isn't that plugged into the WWE office anymore and is largely irrelevant in Vince's eyes.

Dana on the other hand considers Dave to be a thorn in his side, just like Vince did in the 80s. The time and energy Dave used to devote to knowing Vince's business inside and out, and talking to all the major players in the office, that time and energy shifted towards UFC a long time ago.

UFC's PPV numbers are largely anemic and Dana doesn't like attention being drawn to that fact.

Vince and Hunter were still upset at Meltzer as soon as a year in and half ago. He was still releasing some numbers they weren't fans of and the timing he released those numbers. But maybe Vince doesn't hate Meltzer as much now.

Dana though definitely does. The UFC doesn't like any information to leak and when it does Dana absolutely hates it. One of the reasons he hated or still hates Helwani. But the type of stuff Helwani was releasing wasn't like what Meltzer would release.