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  • KTFOKING
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    #41
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Because, if we're honest about it, it's a matchup that doesn't really move things along, while also being at 3 in the afternoon.

    Whyte refused the eliminator to be WBC mandatory (against Ortiz), refused the eliminator to be the IBF mandatory (against Pulev), both really good fights, to take a domestic scrap for the chance to rematch the man who put him out within 8.

    Beyond that, there's no need for hyperbole lol.
    Saying Whyte/Chisora was one of the best HW fights of the last generation/decade is not hyperbole. It was exactly that. Only thing missing was the lack of KDs. Like that fight in terms of entertainment exceeded Wilder/Ortiz. It was from round 1 those guys were ****ing.

    Moving the needle for what? My post was response in him saying why are people happy SHO picked the fight up. This isn't about getting good ratings or not. This is a quality match up that was picked up.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #42
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      It's weird that DAZN didn't differentiate between Matchroom cards and SKY Box PPV. Only the U.S. Matchroom fight are DAZN fights.


      So, in your understanding of the situation, Eddie Hearn got his alleged billion dollars over 8 years, for that Kansas nonsense?

      Pretty ridiculous, if you ask me.

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        #43
        Originally posted by MasterPlan
        There has to be a reason SHO got this fight. But what is it?

        Are Whyte and/or Chisors contracts up soon?

        Remember Haymon just last week made a deal with ITV.

        Someone get to the bottom of this.
        Chisora is with David Have, who has the Hayemaker Ringstar joint venture with Richard Schaefer (which is likely also how Haymon and Joe Joyce linked up).

        Interesting times though

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          #44
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Chisora is with David Have, who has the Hayemaker Ringstar joint venture with Richard Schaefer (which is likely also how Haymon and Joe Joyce linked up).

          Interesting times though
          Joyce is no longer with Haye. Just with Schaefer and Haymon.

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            #45
            Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
            Don't sure what to read between the lines regarding this but I'm kinda split on this one. I like the fact that DAZN typically gives me the entire fight card from the prelims to the main event, more access to boxing is a good thing.

            With Showtime getting it I probably won't get any of the undercard but I prefer the Showtime announcers much, much more. Anything to avoid Sugar Ray Leonard making comments that are completely opposite to what's going on in the ring is a good thing for me...
            Point of order, what other fight on this Whyte-Chisora 2 card even actually worth watching?

            Quantity for quantity's sake works for some people, but I'm not wasting my time watching 8-10 100:1 fights.

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              #46
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Saying Whyte/Chisora was one of the best HW fights of the last generation/decade is not hyperbole. It was exactly that. Only thing missing was the lack of KDs. Like that fight in terms of entertainment exceeded Wilder/Ortiz. It was from round 1 those guys were ****ing.

              Moving the needle for what? My post was response in him saying why are people happy SHO picked the fight up. This isn't about getting good ratings or not. This is a quality match up that was picked up.
              What does the winner of the fight get were they not picked as Joshua's mandatory (or if, somehow, Usyk got paid enough to simply take the fight in April?

              The winner isn't mandatory by the WBC, WBA, IBF, or WBO (top WBO challenger, but the mandatory was called with the Povetkin fight, and the WBO isn't known to really force mandatories anyway; unless Arum or Warren lean on them to speed up a mandatory for one of their fighters), there's no belt (world/Euro/British/etc) on the line, and it's not like the winner of the fight will now be a UK attraction either.

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              • KTFOKING
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                #47
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                What does the winner of the fight get were they not picked as Joshua's mandatory (or if, somehow, Usyk got paid enough to simply take the fight in April?

                The winner isn't mandatory by the WBC, WBA, IBF, or WBO (top WBO challenger, but the mandatory was called with the Povetkin fight, and the WBO isn't known to really force mandatories anyway; unless Arum or Warren lean on them to speed up a mandatory for one of their fighters), there's no belt (world/Euro/British/etc) on the line, and it's not like the winner of the fight will now be a UK attraction either.
                Once again how is this relevant? Was the first match up not very good? Yes or no? It was a legit FOTY candidate. SHO boxing budget doesn't carry over to the following year. They had some left and they made a bid on the fight to get it. Stop looking at this more than what it is.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  So, in your understanding of the situation, Eddie Hearn got his alleged billion dollars over 8 years, for that Kansas nonsense?

                  Pretty ridiculous, if you ask me.
                  I think the executives at DAZN didn't understand the ins & outs of boxing. The politics. The alliances. They saw the success he had in the UK & thought he could replicate it here. If you don't follow the sport as closely as we do you dont understand the politics of boxing. He probably went to them & explained that there are dozens of top talented fighters without a promoter. He can get them with enough money.

                  To the executives this made a lot of sense. Tons of free agent fighters out there whom the boxing public already knows. And all they need is a promoter. And he probably usedv signing Jacobs as an example.

                  But they don't follow boxing so they didn't understand the politics. They also aren't privvy to the PBC numbers. Eddie wasn't either. What he thought was a good offer was actually lower than what they're getting paid. Take the Wilder-Fury fight for example. The co-Promoter was Wilder Enterprises. When DAZN signed Canelo they had to sign a NDA to see how much he was really making.

                  Hearn's strategy was Haymon fighters or bust. And it was all driven by his ego

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    What does the winner of the fight get were they not picked as Joshua's mandatory (or if, somehow, Usyk got paid enough to simply take the fight in April?

                    The winner isn't mandatory by the WBC, WBA, IBF, or WBO (top WBO challenger, but the mandatory was called with the Povetkin fight, and the WBO isn't known to really force mandatories anyway; unless Arum or Warren lean on them to speed up a mandatory for one of their fighters), there's no belt (world/Euro/British/etc) on the line, and it's not like the winner of the fight will now be a UK attraction either.
                    No Povetkin was the WBA mandatory.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      I think the executives at DAZN didn't understand the ins & outs of boxing. The politics. The alliances. They saw the success he had in the UK & thought he could replicate it here. If you don't follow the sport as closely as we do you dont understand the politics of boxing. He probably went to them & explained that there are dozens of top talented fighters without a promoter. He can get them with enough money.

                      To the executives this made a lot of sense. Tons of free agent fighters out there whom the boxing public already knows. And all they need is a promoter. And he probably usedv signing Jacobs as an example.

                      But they don't follow boxing so they didn't understand the politics. They also aren't privvy to the PBC numbers. Eddie wasn't either. What he thought was a good offer was actually lower than what they're getting paid. Take the Wilder-Fury fight for example. The co-Promoter was Wilder Enterprises. When DAZN signed Canelo they had to sign a NDA to see how much he was really making.

                      Hearn's strategy was Haymon fighters or bust. And it was all driven by his ego
                      Basically one must assume that DAZN either ) comically overpaid for a bunch of B-Level cards at small venues throughout the US ) Fast Eddie wrote checks on a busted bank account and now is scrambling to stay in the game..

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