"Too Fast" Fury vs "Sonny" Liston: Who wins?

[Ascended]

But I don't think reality works like that mate.

If Sonny Liston was transported to present time? He would be a different fighter.

If Tyson Fury was transported back to the 1950's and 60's, it would not be right 'If he was allowed to take with him, all of his modern sports science information, training coaches and supplements'.

Tyson Fury would have to compete and train under the conditions of the fighters from those era's.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but in reality? He has been put together, and is just about holding himself together due to modern sport science.

Fury is still not really in great condition, even though he has all this expertise surrounding him.

Back in the 1960's, Fury is not weighing 270 + pounds, he would probably be weighing 240 to 250 pounds maximum.

In fact, Tyson Fury in his early career trained with more old school methodologies. I think Fury would be in that type of condition if he was to travel back in time.

It doesn't matter what you think h2h matches are like they are shown your not supposed to change anything cause your making a fighter fight different so no you put them how they were and you cant do that cause you don't know how anybody would fight so stop

What your doing is changing fury cause you know for a fact he would destroy son cause he was to slow and easy to read and basic whats wrong with that

We seen son at his best and he still was like i said he was his best fighter was ali and leotis who gave him trouble

Fury moves a good amount better then ali and leotis not speed but his angle use and awkwardness fury is just more advanced then those 2

Son has no chance

[Mr Giggles]

Fury is way too big, he’s a giant compared to the heavyweights of the past

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury and modern sport science are words that do not go together. Expertise lol, wth lmao. This place is crazy sometimes.

I think they do mate, his training is based of such methodologies.

Why do you seem to think that they don't go together?

There are videos of Peter Fury showing people around his gym, opening cupboards and they were stacked full of supplements.

Fury was then explaining the importance of nutrition and supplementation.

I may try and find the video.

[War Room]

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but in reality? He has been put together, and is just about holding himself together due to modern sport science.

Fury is still not really in great condition, even though he has all this expertise surrounding him.

Fury and modern sport science are words that do not go together. Expertise lol, wth lmao. This place is crazy sometimes.

[Silence]

Liston tries to punch Fury, then drops and breaks his ankle. Loses by TKO lmfao.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Stop cause that doesn't work and it never has we take them how they were at their best so stop changing drop fury in at his heavyweights and he destroys son you know like ali did fury fights like that him not as smooth but has some of that style and has better defense and is awkward
son was slow and easy to read the man was trash compared

But I don't think reality works like that mate.

If Sonny Liston was transported to present time? He would be a different fighter.

If Tyson Fury was transported back to the 1950's and 60's, it would not be right 'If he was allowed to take with him, all of his modern sports science information, training coaches and supplements'.

Tyson Fury would have to compete and train under the conditions of the fighters from those era's.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but in reality? He has been put together, and is just about holding himself together due to modern sport science.

Fury is still not really in great condition, even though he has all this expertise surrounding him.

Back in the 1960's, Fury is not weighing 270 + pounds, he would probably be weighing 240 to 250 pounds maximum.

In fact, Tyson Fury in his early career trained with more old school methodologies. I think Fury would be in that type of condition if he was to travel back in time.

[Ascended]

If the fight was staged back in the 60's. I am unsure that Tyson Fury would cope well during those times from day to day.

The only way the fight can be made, is on a level playing field. Which will mean? Fury won't be able to pump himself with modern supplements and whatever else.

Tyson Fury will not be weighing in at 270+ pounds in the 1960's.

I cannot call the fight right about now. But I would maybe still make Fury the favorite.

Fury will still try to dance and sting, but I don't think there will be much in his sting.

Stop cause that doesn't work and it never has we take them how they were at their best so stop changing drop fury in at his heavyweights and he destroys son you know like ali did fury fights like that him not as smooth but has some of that style and has better defense and is awkward
son was slow and easy to read the man was trash compared

[PRINCEKOOL]

If the fight was staged back in the 60's. I am unsure that Tyson Fury would cope well during those times from day to day.

The only way the fight can be made, is on a level playing field. Which will mean? Fury won't be able to pump himself with modern supplements and whatever else.

Tyson Fury will not be weighing in at 270+ pounds in the 1960's.

I cannot call the fight right about now. But I would maybe still make Fury the favorite.

Fury will still try to dance and sting, but I don't think there will be much in his sting.

[Ascended]

Yes I do believe that Liston can and would beat the Tyson Fury that fought the Wilder. There were numerous opportunities for Wilder to hurt Fury along the ropes but Wilder threw wild looping shots that Fury saw coming a mile away. I had Wilder doing very well against Fury in that fight. I wasn't impressed by Fury in that fight.

I know your a crazy person anybody can see son was like he said slow easy to read and would be destroyed you don't even see son moving good enough to land none of you do which shows how crazy you are

[Ascended]

You really believe in your heart Liston beats Fury?

I doubt Liston would even beat a good modern heavyweight let alone one of the top ones.

It’s nice to romanticize but the same way Jesse Owens couldn’t compete today with top of the food chain athletes, the same goes for Liston.

We’ve had 50+ years of new TELEVISED talent that puts him to shame. Even the way he moves looks slow, outdated, crude even(in a bad way). Fury is not only bigger, more skilled, and faster...but he’s 100x more fluid than Liston at 6’9 than Liston ever was.

If I were a big betting man... I’d bet everything on Fury vs Liston.

If there were a way to simulate everything taking into account skill and sheer fluidity, balance, and IQ...I’d say tyson wins 99.99999% of every scenario.

Talk all the s hit you guys want on Wilder but he is one of the hardest punching men we will ever see....and the sheer distance he can cover because of freak athletics when he throws the right hand straigh is truly impressive. And of a man his height and reach? It’s undeniable that that straight missile from Wilder is close to a force of nature.

Even beeing hit with THAT couldnt stop Fury.



I literally (barring a hailmary one punch ko, the kind that happen ever 20 years) cannot envision a scenario where Fury loses. It’s almost incomprehensible.

Right word is believe in there head they don't see son on video moving good enough which shows they are crazy

son would be destroyed by mike to its obvious he was way to fast and great at defense