So when joyce knocks out ortiz is he an elite heavyweight?

[KingHippo]

So basically he's the yt boi version of you

Dramashow you should change your name to 'CAC larryxxx'

Larry is nowhere near as biased and insecure as this POS.

And buddy's not white btw

[4truth]

when collazo defeats crawford is.....oh never mind.

[FinitoxDinamita]

Ortiz would give him a rude awakening. Joyce isnt all that imo and he isnt ready for an opponent of Ortiz’ caliber.

But hell yea if it happens soon.

[Mindgames]

People saying joshua has to beat the elite ortiz to prove himself. And ortiz is generally talked about as a fearsome world class heavyweight .So when juggernaut joyce beats ortiz im assuming that puts him as an elite heavyweeight? Or are excuses going to be made?

It will be world class excuse making. Suddenly Ortiz will be a drug taking old age pensioner with high blood pressure who never beat a good fighter hes entire career. All the things he really was before the Wilder fight,the one that somehow made the Bronze book of excuses maker the world's best heavy. And Joyce will be a cherry picking bum who picks on old men.

[Larry the boss]

So basically he's the yt boi version of you

Dramashow you should change your name to 'CAC larryxxx'

What have I been complaining about

[pittapatta66]

What have I been complaining about

The Israeli occupation of *********

[filup79]

People saying joshua has to beat the elite ortiz to prove himself. And ortiz is generally talked about as a fearsome world class heavyweight .So when juggernaut joyce beats ortiz im assuming that puts him as an elite heavyweight? Or are excuses going to be made?

We are still waiting for GGG to beat an elite fighter convincingly? Somehow GGG became an ATG by beating lower tier fighters. He couldn't even beat a Canelo that moved up in weight. Could you imagine if Canelo had been fighting at 160 for years.

[filup79]

It will be world class excuse making. Suddenly Ortiz will be a drug taking old age pensioner with high blood pressure who never beat a good fighter hes entire career. All the things he really was before the Wilder fight,the one that somehow made the Bronze book of excuses maker the world's best heavy. And Joyce will be a cherry picking bum who picks on old men.

I remember the days on here when Ortiz was an elite HW killer who Wilder was ducking. That's when he was with GB and Hearn. As soon as he signed to PBC he became an over rated bum who never beat anyone. In contrast, Jacobs became some killer after signing with Hearn and HBO even though he had never beaten any fighter other that Kid Chocolate. BUt when he was with Haymon and Showtime Jacobs was a glass chinned bum.

[Laligalaliga]

Why are you always complaining or crying about something man?? Seriously why can you not just appreciate boxing?? If Joyce beats Ortiz it is a damn good win but he has to actually do it first

Larry, there is no need for you to start crying because he assumed your darling Ortiz will be KOed by a JJ.
Relax man, relax.

[pittapatta66]

With a win over Ortiz, Joyce will become the 2nd most dangerous autist on the planet (with Wilder being #1)