Is Deontay Wilder A Miracle Physical Talent? 212 lbs. Hardest Puncher Ever.

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  • HeadShots
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sane Man
    In all fairness I thought he would too. But he didn't. And it was the right choice in hindsight because Fury won the rest of the round.

    Wilder was absolutely gassed. If we still had 15 rounders Fury would have stopped Wilder.

    I disagree. Fury has already been concussed in that state. if the fight went on further, he would be knocked spark out.

    Wilder doesn't run out of gas. He's the unload reload type of guy. He unloads his powershots then reloads. so it looks like he's out of gas a lot. but nobody has bad stamina has this level of power in the 12th.

    this is why Mike Tyson for example, bad stamina, doesn't have any KO's beyond the 9th i believe.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Southpawology
      Wilder is dumb as rocks 0 boxing iq. I loved the dumb look on wilders face when he couldnt land the right hand on fury duhhhhh what do i nowwww
      it's true. 0 skill. 0 intelligence.



      pure power. it's unbelieveable.

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      • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sane Man
        In all fairness I thought he would too. But he didn't. And it was the right choice in hindsight because Fury won the rest of the round.

        Wilder was absolutely gassed. If we still had 15 rounders Fury would have stopped Wilder.
        He may have won the round but how much damage did it do to his brain? It should’ve been stopped and it would’ve have in the uk

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          #14
          I'm no Wilder fan but i can't deny his freakish power.

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            #15
            He’s the hardest hitter ever, no doubt. He doesn’t even need combinations, just one punch and you’re down.

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            • HeadShots
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              #16
              yup. his combination aren't even complex. 1-2. 2-1.


              Tyson Fury had 50 lbs on him, boxing IQ, skills, fluidity, combinations, smarts and all he could do was survive.


              it's like he wasn't even fighting a human being. it was like a man fighting a bear with all his wits and skills, still end up almost getting killed.

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              • boliodogs
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                #17
                Originally posted by HeadShots
                No. Foreman, Tyson, Liston didn't have as many 1 punch KO's as Wilder.

                Especially against 250 lb modern day heavyweights.


                Is Wilder the greatest specimen to walk into boxing history? He is smaller than most most cruisers. Yet he's the big bad boogieman and bullies the likes of 260 lb Tyson Fury around the ring like an abused spouse. He has another 250 lb AJ doing a Bruce Jenner impression with his tucking.
                Wilder has a great build for a boxer and he hits with great speed and power but some of what you are saying is not accurate. He is not smaller than most cruiserweights. He is 6 ft. 7 inches tall and 212.5 was his lowest weight in years. He is all bone and muscle at that weight and has almost zero body fat. He could dry out and make cruiserweight but not by much. There is no cruiserweight that I know of who carries as many pounds of lean muscle into the ring as Wilder does. Liston and Foreman weighed 214 pounds when they won the world heavyweight title and I think they punched at least as hard as Wilder. They didn't have as high a percentage of KOs as Wilder does because they fought better tougher opposition overall. Can you imagine Molina lasting 9 rounds with a prime Foreman, Tyson or Liston? I can't. We aren't living in some new era of 250 pound heavyweights. We have lots of 250 pound heavyweights because many of them are so FAT. Ortiz is really fat. If he was as lean as Wilder he would weigh less than Wilder. Fury is fat. If Fury was as lean as Wilder he would be under 230 pounds. AJ is a true giant without extra fat and he has weighed as low as 240. Wilder just shows that a lean hard punching heavyweight who weighs 210 to 220 pounds is plenty big enough to knockout any man alive if they land their best punches. Tyson, Liston, Foreman, Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey proved that many years ago.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #18
                  He fights like an nfl player. His opponents get complacent and then he sneaks it in..
                  He's fast and it's punches you don't see.
                  It was too easy for fury and fury got complacent in 9th round and wilder sneaked one behind head

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                    He may have won the round but how much damage did it do to his brain? It should’ve been stopped and it would’ve have in the uk
                    Fury was ok after 5 seconds, he rose up no drama. No chicken dance. He climbed ropes after fight finished and even sang us a song. He will be ok. Fury wasn't so confused after result announcement to not know he'd been robbed
                    now Bellew i was worried about his post fight interview with usyk
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 12-04-2018, 11:26 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HeadShots
                      No. Foreman, Tyson, Liston didn't have as many 1 punch KO's as Wilder.

                      Especially against 250 lb modern day heavyweights.


                      Is Wilder the greatest specimen to walk into boxing history? He is smaller than most most cruisers. Yet he's the big bad boogieman and bullies the likes of 260 lb Tyson Fury around the ring like an abused spouse. He has another 250 lb AJ doing a Bruce Jenner impression with his tucking.
                      If you look historically at the heavyweights you will find something that some of us have tried to bring up at various times... The weight for a specimen, in the heavyweight division, a pure puncher specifically, has always been between just south of 200 pounds to about 215. Lets list a few pure punchers:

                      Dempsey, Louis, Bauer, Liston, Foreman, Tyson...

                      I am just mentioning a few, but lets look at a few things here:

                      a) Some of these men (Dempsey, Louis, bauer, Tyson) were not considered big heavies, while others, Foreman, Liston were considered big heavies. Weight is only one determining factor when it comes to determining size.

                      b) Yet NON of these men weighed north of 230 to my recollection, and most were around what Wilder weights.

                      Wilder has a big long frame, like Liston and Foreman. This makes him somewhat large when compared to Tyson for example, who was more compact in the frame.

                      The main point I am making is that the size of a crackerjack puncher has not changed. Wilder does have that power for sure...

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