Is Deontay Wilder A Miracle Physical Talent? 212 lbs. Hardest Puncher Ever.

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  • HeadShots
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    #41
    Originally posted by NearHypnos
    Malignaggi is a 140 pound jabbing manlet hitting people his size.

    Tyson Fury is a 250+ pound man smashing a man 30-40 pounds smaller and rattling a brain of roughly the same size as the one Malignaggi is hitting.

    This is why Fury gets stoppages and Paulie does not. Paulie’s arm punch has very little weight behind it.

    Fury's stopping power is abysmal for someone his weight. He caught Wilder who is 50 lbs lighter over and over again and couldn't even buckle him.

    I mean even your gay ass would probably lay your twink boyfriend out at that kind of weight advantage.

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    • BackToTheJab
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      #42
      You're easier to get knocked down when you're tired. Wilder needs to be careful himself.

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      • GhostofDempsey
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        #43
        Joe Louis at 212 KO'd a 265 lb. Carnera. Watch Carnera's fights, he was Wlad before Wald was Wlad.

        Plenty of fighters had power equal to or perhaps greater than Wilder...Liston, Shavers, Tyson, Louis, Lewis, Vitali, Dempsey. Wilder is 6'7' so it stands to reason he should be getting more leverage on his punches, especially since he throws them from such a wide stance. The fact that it took him 40 fights before he actually fought a real opponent (39 year old Ortiz) tells us all we need to know about Wilder and why his KO percentage is so high.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          #44
          I don’t know about 1 punch KOs but Foreman, Liston, Tyson, Louis, Frazier, Wlad, Lewis all had way more knockouts over top competition than Wilder, who at this moment in time has 1.

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            #45
            hes one of the hardest punchers no doubt all he needs to to is land, no idea who the all time hardest puncher is tho.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              Joe Louis at 212 KO'd a 265 lb. Carnera. Watch Carnera's fights, he was Wlad before Wald was Wlad.

              Plenty of fighters had power equal to or perhaps greater than Wilder...Liston, Shavers, Tyson, Louis, Lewis, Vitali, Dempsey. Wilder is 6'7' so it stands to reason he should be getting more leverage on his punches, especially since he throws them from such a wide stance. The fact that it took him 40 fights before he actually fought a real opponent (39 year old Ortiz) tells us all we need to know about Wilder and why his KO percentage is so high.
              Shavers is literally known for knocking guys down and they come back and knock his ass out. Then they say he punch the hardest to give themselves more credit for beating him. Shavers power is the most overrated legend in boxing history.


              Tyson's power is more in combinations he doesn't really have 1 punch KO's. He's never really put anybody to sleep like Wilder does regularly. Tyson's power also doesn't carry late.


              Foreman's power is accumulative. Very hard to find 1 punch KO's.


              Joe Louis might be close in a historical perspective but plenty of guys went to decision with him too. And he wasn't fighting 250+ men regularly enough.


              Vitali is definitely an accumulative finisher.

              Dempsey is also accumulative. He doesn't have 1 punch KO's.

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                #47
                Originally posted by HeadShots
                Shavers is literally known for knocking guys down and they come back and knock his ass out. Then they say he punch the hardest to give themselves more credit for beating him. Shavers power is the most overrated legend in boxing history.


                Tyson's power is more in combinations he doesn't really have 1 punch KO's. He's never really put anybody to sleep like Wilder does regularly. Tyson's power also doesn't carry late.


                Foreman's power is accumulative. Very hard to find 1 punch KO's.


                Joe Louis might be close in a historical perspective but plenty of guys went to decision with him too. And he wasn't fighting 250+ men regularly enough.


                Vitali is definitely an accumulative finisher.

                Dempsey is also accumulative. He doesn't have 1 punch KO's.
                All of these fighters did something Wilder has not...fought top tier opponents. Who has Wilder out to sleep? Lets here the names of these HOF worthy opponents.

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                • hogey
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                  #48
                  Can you imagine what punchers Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Liston, Cleveland Williams, Tyson, Lewis, Louis ect would have done to the collection of bums that Wilder has built his reputation on. Wilder can definately hit but as anyone how knows boxing will tell you the better opposition the less KOs you will get. Wilder has fought one really elite Heavyweight in his career who doesnt even have a great chin and failed to keep him down.
                  Last edited by hogey; 12-04-2018, 02:40 PM.

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                  • jglvz256
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                    #49
                    No one mentioned Marciano? Won the title with one shot.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      All of these fighters did something Wilder has not...fought top tier opponents. Who has Wilder out to sleep? Lets here the names of these HOF worthy opponents.

                      False. Wilder's Ortiz win is better than Mike Tyson's LHW Spinks or shot Holmes. ORtiz better than anybody SHavers beat.

                      Undefeated top ranked opponent.

                      Foreman knocked out Frazier but he would be a lightheavy today.

                      Tyson and Shavers in particular has lost to all the great guys of their era.


                      Deontay WIlder just had a draw. He didn't wilt like Shavers or Tyson and his power carried late.

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