Comments Thread For: Lineage Matters Most at Heavyweight

[Usetoloveboxing]

Great article. I dont know who the best heavyweight is right now,but glad to see that 2 in the conversation are fighting this weekend. If Wilder wins, I'm sure a Joshua fight will happen. If Fury wins, I'm sure there will be a rematch. Either way, they stepped up and took the fight. Hopefully the guys in the other divisions follow suit, but I doubt it.

[N/A]

The Ring title is who the Ring believes is lineal.

Not according to Ring it's not. Who are you to tell us what Ring believes? Ring says you're wrong. I already posted the link where Ring stripped Fury and said they were separating the Ring title from the lineal title.

So if Ring itself is insisting Ring and lineal are two different things, who are you to say otherwise?

[N/A]

Exactly.

Either you're lineal or at least the WBC champion.

I like Joshua, but his belts are weak.

Joshua is a great fighter and well deserving of being ranked #1 in the world. He's certainly #1 in my world rankings.

And unifying three world titles is no small feat. But they are all titles that were stripped from Fury and Wilder was clearly considered the strongest champion when Joshua started picking up those titles.

Joshua is a strong #1 and Wilder is a strong #2, but clearly Wilder tried harder to make a unification fight than Joshua did. Which is understandable. Wilder had far more incentive to make that fight. Wilder was likely making 3-4 million per fight while Joshua was making 15 million or more. So Joshua is going to be more reluctant to take a huge risk.

Just wish Joshua fans could be honest about the situation. He's the big cash cow and the big cash cow isn't going to be rushed into the ring with the biggest threat. Wilder is clearly the biggest threat.

[Tyistall]

Fury is not the lineal champion. Check Wikipedia. But that doesn't matter because you idiots will believe what fits your agenda. This will be a crappy, boring fight and there will be plenty of boos this Saturday. The winner will be deluded enough to say that he is #1 in the world when he knows he isn't. That doesn't matter eithewr because you idiots will say the same thing, knowing that AJ has 4 belts and is the man to beat.

[Tyistall]

Joshua is a great fighter and well deserving of being ranked #1 in the world. He's certainly #1 in my world rankings.

And unifying three world titles is no small feat. But they are all titles that were stripped from Fury and Wilder was clearly considered the strongest champion when Joshua started picking up those titles.

Joshua is a strong #1 and Wilder is a strong #2, but clearly Wilder tried harder to make a unification fight than Joshua did. Which is understandable. Wilder had far more incentive to make that fight. Wilder was likely making 3-4 million per fight while Joshua was making 15 million or more. So Joshua is going to be more reluctant to take a huge risk.

Just wish Joshua fans could be honest about the situation. He's the big cash cow and the big cash cow isn't going to be rushed into the ring with the biggest threat. Wilder is clearly the biggest threat.

I'm still trying to understand the logic behind saying that Wilder tried harder to make the AJ fight, when it was AJ's manager Hearn offering 4 times for them to fight and Wilder's team refusing to meet about a phantom 50 million. Are we living in Bezaro-world or something where everything is backwards? Wilder is a bum beating fraud and I hope he gets beat this weekend so we don't have to hear his mouth or hear from his ******ed fans any more

[N/A]

I'm still trying to understand the logic behind saying that Wilder tried harder to make the AJ fight, when it was AJ's manager Hearn offering 4 times for them to fight and Wilder's team refusing to meet about a phantom 50 million.

Maybe you're having trouble understanding because for some strange reason you're still under the impression the 50 million wasn't legit, even though Joshua and Hearn have already admitted it was legit, but that Joshua's trainer didn't want to take the fight.

[Tyistall]

Maybe you're having trouble understanding because for some strange reason you're still under the impression the 50 million wasn't legit, even though Joshua and Hearn have already admitted it was legit, but that Joshua's trainer didn't want to take the fight.

Or maybe I'm having trouble believing someone has 50 million when he only gets 1 million per fight. Or maybe I'm having trouble with someone saying I'll give you 50 million, but there will be no meeting, no sit down, no conversation about it, just signh this paper, like a jackass hahahahah. And anybody who believes that the 50 million was real, is a ******ed jackass too

[N/A]

Or maybe I'm having trouble believing someone has 50 million when he only gets 1 million per fight.

Wilder's purses are already filed over 2 million and filed purses are largely bogus. Based on being Showtime's biggest star and what Showtime pays in license fees, Wilder is likely making 3-4 million per fight, not 1 million.

Separate from that, what Wilder makes is irrelevant. Showtime and Haymon have put on all of the biggest events in the history of boxing. Showtime confirmed the money was real. Joshua and Hearn both confirmed the money was real. If Showtime guaranteed a 100 million purse for Mayweather, they can guarantee a 50 million purse for Joshua. To doubt that Showtime could come up with the money is ridiculous.

[pillowfists98]

None of the ranking/ boxing history sites recognize Fury as lineal champion.

[aboutfkntime]

Joshua is a great fighter and well deserving of being ranked #1 in the world. He's certainly #1 in my world rankings.

And unifying three world titles is no small feat. But they are all titles that were stripped from Fury and Wilder was clearly considered the strongest champion when Joshua started picking up those titles.

Joshua is a strong #1 and Wilder is a strong #2, but clearly Wilder tried harder to make a unification fight than Joshua did. Which is understandable. Wilder had far more incentive to make that fight. Wilder was likely making 3-4 million per fight while Joshua was making 15 million or more. So Joshua is going to be more reluctant to take a huge risk.

Just wish Joshua fans could be honest about the situation. He's the big cash cow and the big cash cow isn't going to be rushed into the ring with the biggest threat. Wilder is clearly the biggest threat.

well said !