Mayweather joshua

[Kezzer]

I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone say AJ shouldn’t fight wilder?

But to the point re money, AJ is the a side and will be dictating a number of items like location, pay, etc. wilder either sucks up and takes it like other fights who are the b side or it won’t happen.

Anyone who claims Joshua is ducking just needs to look at history. Wilder has. Had forty odd fights and only Ortiz can be considered a challenge, even he has never beat anyone else in top20. Wilder also openly refused to take on Klitschko because he wasn’t ready. Wilder also never took up the chance to unify despite becoming champion long before Joshua.

Joshua on the other hand has continued to take decent fights. Outside of Ortiz it probably isn’t a debate that the following opponents were all higher than any other of wilder opponents. Parker, Whyte, Klitschko, Takam and Povetkin. You might even argue Brezeale too.

Joshua has the cards and if wilder wants the fight he will accept his biggest pay day BT should Joshua take any offer, of course he shouldn’t. Joshua could easily take on Whyte, Ortiz, Usyk, Ward, Klitschko or Miller and fans would watch it - the reason being that he has continue to take on high level opponents and has time on his side. He still isn’t 30 and we want all these sort of fights anyway.

So the summary is that really the ball is in Wilders court if he wants the fight to make it happy and yes he might need to bend over in some cases but that’s no different to many other fighters who have to do it - sorry that it’s the American in this scenario.

[Bjl12]

I agree with everything you said but ghost is black .

Ghost is one of those black people that hates black people then.

And he voted for Trump.

And he's a complete idiot

Dude is ass

[WarHagler]

Ghost is one of those black people that hates black people then.

And he voted for Trump.

And he's a complete idiot

Dude is ass

Yeah dudes a straight up uncle tom

[REDEEMER]

Joshua doesn't need Wilder to cement his legacy. He's not even in his prime yet and Wilder lost his pen , it's what he claimed. That's what history will reflect and we could go.look at all the major rankings and see Wilder was the number 2 heavyweight across the board. If Wilder loses to Fury he will be the worst champion in the last 30 years and we can all move on sooner then later.

[IronDanHamza]

There was no contract for a 50/50 split in 2011.

AJ holds two of the top ten all time attendance records. He was earning $20M in just his 20th fight. How much did Floyd earn for his 20th? De La Hoya made Floyd a star, it was a passing of the torch. All of Floyd’s biggest PPV fights were just as much a result of his opponents drawing power.

Again, stop with the excuses. Can’t change rules mid-game. Your guy created this mess.

Any big PPV fight has just as much to do with the opponent. It takes two to tango.

That's like saying Mike Tyson only drew massive numbers because of his opponents like Holyfield and Lewis.

It's illogical and makes no sense. Tyson was a massive the same way Floyd is obviously a massive draw. Obviously the biggest numbers are going to be when two big names fight each other.

And for the record yes there was an agreement for a 50/50 split but not in 2011 in 2009 and both agreed to that 50/50 split.

[GhostofDempsey]

Any big PPV fight has just as much to do with the opponent. It takes two to tango.

That's like saying Mike Tyson only drew massive numbers because of his opponents like Holyfield and Lewis.

It's illogical and makes no sense. Tyson was a massive the same way Floyd is obviously a massive draw. Obviously the biggest numbers are going to be when two big names fight each other.

And for the record yes there was an agreement for a 50/50 split but not in 2011 in 2009 and both agreed to that 50/50 split.

Yet, AJ is still earned $15M to fight Takam, and over 75K fans showed up...you telling me just as many of them paid to see Takam?

There was no 50/50 agreement. There was a claim by Yahoo that they had "documents" that spoke of an agreement, yet they never publicly posted a 50/50 contract and Mayweather's promoters denied it was ever offered. But somehow, fans know more than Ellerbe? His fans have made excuses for him his entire career and they still do to this day.

[IronDanHamza]

Yet, AJ is still earned $15M to fight Takam, and over 75K fans showed up...you telling me just as many of them paid to see Takam?

There was no 50/50 agreement. There was a claim by Yahoo that they had "documents" that spoke of an agreement, yet they never publicly posted a 50/50 contract and Mayweather's promoters denied it was ever offered. But somehow, fans know more than Ellerbe? His fans have made excuses for him his entire career and they still do to this day.

Right and what's AJ's gate numbers? A lot less than any of Floyd's top however many.

Whatever AJ did with Takam he will triple when he fights the Wilder-Fury winner you know why? Because that's what happens when two big names fight.

Big name vs big name = more sales. Common sense.

To say "Floyd only does his highest numbers when he fights another draw" as some kind of knock on his drawing power is just not logical at all. The same can be said for literally anyone.

All the top 4 highest earning PPV's fights in the history of PPV involve Floyd. So if that's not an indicator of his drawing ability I'm not sure what is.

You are talking about the 2012 "negotiations" that Ellerbe denied happened.

Totally seperate to 2009 where both teams agreed to 50/50 and that was on record by both teams.

[IronDanHamza]

Pretty sure I know whose racist alt you are.

But according to the people who would know about a 50/50 deal...

Richard Schaefer, who was then the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, denied ever sending the deal. Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, also called the report nonsense

Again, you are referring to 2012.

Not 2009.

2009 negotiations lead to both teams agreeing to 50/50 it is literally right there on record in the post you quoted.

[LacedUp]

I literally see no one saying AJ shouldn't fight Wilder.

Everyone on AJs side, incl his fans, manager, promoter and himself want it.

Wilder and his fans keep saying AJ is ducking

[GhostofDempsey]

Again, you are referring to 2012.

Not 2009.

2009 negotiations lead to both teams agreeing to 50/50 it is literally right there on record in the post you quoted.

It's not on record. It was a claim made by Yahoo that spoke to a 50/50 deal. Show me the contract that said 50/50 in any year. Whether 2009, 2001, 2012. There wasn't any.